Which alternative search engines do you use?
Which alternative search engines do you use?
Since Internet search has and will change, which search engines do you use successfully, and what are their advantages?
Which alternative search engines do you use?
Since Internet search has and will change, which search engines do you use successfully, and what are their advantages?
Kagi, hands down, is by far the best search engine I've ever used (next to Neeva, which got bought and shut down).
Just simple searches like "Best gaming headphones" or "Realtek Driver Download" and comparing them with Google, Bing, DuckDuckGo, Brave, Startpage, etc. shows how the quality of the results are far superior.
And you can directly define, which sites you'd like to see higher / more results of or less - or even completely block or pin them to the top.
Also, it also shows you directly, before visiting a site, in colors if a site has a very high number of ads and/or trackers.
And they support for power users custom CSS to adjust everything, URL rewrites (e.g. change all Reddit URLs to old.reddit or to automatically open libreddit), DDG and custom bangs, and much more.
Lastly, I created a so-called "Lens", which allows me to search Lemmy / Kbin content only (also still have one for Reddit).
Meaning with one click, it shows me results from only sites or keywords I've defined - see image.
Very satisfied with it, can only recommend.
(copied from another thread I replied to)
Interesting. I just searched some topics related to a paper I'm working on and found some good resources which I haven't seen on Google yet. Really interesting.
+1 I've been using Kagi for almost a year now, and it's so good! Well worth the cost of the subscription.
Also, TIL about URL rewrites! Now all of my search results use private frontends. Thanks for the tip!
I use DuckDuckGo, I forgot how to live without the search tags such as !yt, !fb, !w to search specific sites.
I love ddg's bang system. I submitted one for !Lemmy, waiting to see if its approved or not.
I have to shout out Wiby. It is focused on like weird personal websites from the early 2000s, that kind of thing. Absolutely not a general-purpose search engine, but mashing the "surprise me" button will take you to all sorts of fun places.
In the same vain, there's marginalia search.
I'm just hitting 'surprise me' and having a blast.
Stumbleupon is back, baby!
My top ones:
DuckDuckGo - may not be as private as they claim, but has been my go-to for years. Simple, but feature-full and still mostly decent for search.
Marginalia - a search engine that favors text heavy websites, perfect for research
Searx instance - not my main due to how spotty the instances can be and lazy to set up mine. But can basically grab stuff from all the "big" search engines, which saves a lot of time. I don't consider it a godsend like most people do, though. As since big engines can give poor results.
frogfind - a duckduckgo interface meant for older computers that converts webpages to basic html. Perfect for news articles and tutorials where you want to skip the "fluff".
Kagi.com no ads, private, you pay a subscription so they look for your interest instead of you being the product, has many customizations, very responsive company, very good use of AI, super fast, doesn’t require javascript, and many other things, just give it a try
What paid plan do you use ? If it's not the ultimate plan, do you often go over the “limit” ? I'm interested, but I have a hard time knowing what plan I will actually require.
Not OP, but as a data point, I do approximately 2000-2500 searches per month. I'm obviously on the unlimited plan (an early adopter version of it). I'm in software development so I search a lot.
I'm also on the early adopter unlimited plan. What I suggest is that you take a conservative plan and observe your behavior, you can always upgrade to a bigger plan later
I use you.com as it's centered on an ai chatbot and pulls in traditional web search results to augment it's answers. it works quite well.
Interesting, is that the only search engine you use? Does it work well when you want to browse different links?
yeah for most of my searches it's all I need. you.com adds traditional search results in the sidebar if you need them. I do use !g (google) in some cases (usually for a niche specific page I need).
might not count, but I use startpage, which uses google while allegedly keeping none of the info that makes google problematic
sometimes i use duckduckgo,
in firefox you can make a shortcut to type anything in any searchbar too, like so: (in this example I'll use kbin.social search)
We type something into search to get the exact url we need, that ends up being https://kbin.social/search?q=[something]
in this case [something] is obviously what we typed, so we save a bookmark of https://kbin.social/search?q=%s where %s swaps out what we type when we call to the bookmark
Then we give the bookmark a keyword that makes it easy to type, it can be anything but I'll just use kb
now whenever i type 'kb somethingsomething' it will search somethingsomething on kbin.social
I use this for youtube, arch wiki, the type-effectiveness graph on bulbapedia pages ( https://bulbapedia.bulbagarden.net/wiki/%s(Pok%C3%A9mon)#Typeeffectiveness ), etc, etc
I have switched to Ecosia few days ago. No conplains so far. Its free, and builds off Bing IIRC.
I have been intrigued by Kagi, but Im not really ready to pay a sub for a search engine.
Same, I have been using Ecosia for 3-4 years. Does it job and even if it doesn't, I can just try other search engine after.
If the number were to be trusted, I already plant almost 100 trees doing nothing. Ngl, does feel good for my conscience.
Honestly? Bing chat has been quite good to me if I have specific questions. It searches the web and gives me a summary.
In between Brave Search and DDG.
I use DuckDuckGo and it workw quite well and at least they say they protect your privacy (I am sure they do a better job than GAFAM/BigTech spyware mafia), but am looking for something better since I found out it has some agreement with Microsoft and I do not trust those spyware-producing convicted monopoly abusers at all.
Brave Search for the majority of things. Ecosia and sometimes Searx.
Duck-Duck-Go. Getting worse for privacy (allegedly) but it's been overall great for me. If I can't find what I'm searching for on the first page or two I just add a !g
to the front to search an anonymized google for that query.
Startpage, google search results without ads, trackers but much slower, the slowness can get annoying sometimes when my internet speed is bad
Duck duck go cause I'm a basic removed
Unfortunately, still Google, with Bing a distant second. I've realised at least half of my searches are locale-specific, and engines like DDG are so American-centric. This is even with letting DDG use accurate location data. Reading the options here and hoping to find something I've not heard before that'll work and hopefully replace Google as my main search engine.
If you are in Europe, Qwant is a decent alternative. There are also alternatives like Ecosia and Startpage that use Google or Bing behind the scenes but limit how much they can track you.
Not in Europe, so don't think that'll work. Probably have to use something like what you said.
I personally use You.com, Mojeek and Startpage. All of them are great 👍..
Been using DDG almost exclusively (still need google occasionally) but noticed the quality on DDG has been decreasing with the ride of generative content. Anything travel or review related is just garbage.
I am learning so many things from this thread
Kagi
I'm sort of between search engines. I currently use SearXNG on my laptops and LibreX on my phone. These are metasearch engines, so they usually pull in more and better results than, say, Google alone. SearXNG is good because it's very private (depending of course on who hosts it); while LibreX is nice because it's simple, allows custom redirects for popular services (e.g. YouTube -> CloudTube), and it doesn't use JavaScript.
I think my crappy Android tablet uses Mojeek, but it's been a while since I last used it. I've also recently tried out MetaGer (rejected because some features required payment), Qwant (rejected because Privacy Badger saw a fair number of trackers) and SwissCows (rejected because of constant internal server errors).
The only thing missing from my current engines is filters for image search. Qwant and SwissCows let me specify the aspect ratio, vague size, colour, and license of the results. Mojeek, SearXNG and LibreX unfortunately do not offer this; which is why I'm between search engines at the minute.
Kagi. Very happy with it. Best $5 it recently invested. Gives me much better results than Google and all the others.
Brave search works well, but I have the feeling they are playing with user's data otherwise I can't explain their business model
Ads, according to their privacy policy.