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Memes @lemmy.ml

1y ago

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Source: @MrLovenstein@mastodon.social

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I'm so sick and tired of every single website and service trying to push an app on me. No, I don't want to download your stupid shitty app, I've got dozens and I don't want another one that I don't use that interrupts me to push stupid notifications. Now get off my lawn!
- Hell yeah. I was furious when I learned that you "nEed To InsTalL tHe McDoNaLds ApP FoR tHe CoDe!" for their monopoly-game. Wtf?! Just give me my fucking mcsundae-coupon right now, goddamn.
  
  What country are you in? Here in Canada you didn't need an app for McNopoly
- Same. I have to use bill.com for a contract, I swear they made their website as mobile un-friendly as possible because they push their app so hard. Like, I use you to submit one invoice a month I don't need an app to do that, fuck off.
  
  They can’t track your every interest to sell to other assholes if you don’t use their software though.
  Now, don’t you feel sorry for the poor companies who can’t make money off of you when you’re on sites completely unrelated to theirs?
  It just breaks my heart.
- I agree. At the same time I love webapps the provide alternate interfaces like wefwef/Voyager and Phanpy.
- Android tried to fix this issue, no clue if anyone uses it through
  https://support.google.com/googleplay/answer/7683278?hl=en#zippy=
  
  ..what issue? It isn't technical. I just don't want another stupid shitty app.

sets browser to request the desktop site instead *
- website immediately forgets this setting
  
  Welcome new visitor! Have you subscribed to our newsletter yet?
  
  laughs in Firefox Mobile

Threads is view-only without the app, so no using it on PC. Probably because they wouldn't be able to get as much data. I would never use it anyway but it's so stupid.
- You can at least view threads without logging in? That's better than instagram usually forces login. Still won't use it.
  
  And instagram is still a lot better than Twitter which just redirects you to nothing at all. Now I just wish news sites would stop linking to twitter because I can't look at any of the garbage that's been posted.
  
  instagram usually doesn’t for just viewing profiles or posts but anything past that it’ll prompt you and there’s a big ass banner at the bottom asking you to sign in
- Wow. Did not know that. That's crazy. Let's cripple something running on a more powerful processor and with a bigger screen and full keyboard? That's just backwards and terrible.
  
  Not backwards for them maybe. They will frame it as being a mobile-optimized experience that captures your (whatever), but of course it is monitoring your gyro right now to determine whether you're sitting upright, lying in your bed, or ... something else.
- I feel like an idiot for not knowing this, but website do you go to to read Threads?
  I tried going to "threads.net" but it's just a link to download the app?
  
  You can view threads profiles by typing threads.net/@username, for example threads.net/@meta

I will never use Pinterest because of this shit. I just want to see the pic I found on Google, I will not download your bullshit to see it.
- Same with tiktok. they used to let you watch videos without the app, now they won't let you unmute the video. one of my frineds keeps trying to send me tiktoks and i'm like, this is worthless.
  
  No, it works. You just slide a puzzle piece over, then it reloads. Then it plays muted, you have to unmute it and then it's half-way through so you have to restart the video. There see, easy! And by the time you get to watch it in a tiny ass screen you have already seen it muted about 3-5 times give or take.
  
  I don't have an account and I watched videos with sound today on both mobile and desktop and honestly that shit is better without sound.
  
  I'm pretty happy to say I've only ever water one TikTok video and it was because it was the only place I could find that methed out crazy town fella sing butterfly

This is extremely true for modern social media sites. Normal news sites used to push their apps too, but I guess this fad has passed.
- Social media? Bitch, this is the average restaurant experience now! OH We HaVe OuR meNu On OuR aPp
  Yeah and you have no goddamn signal here GIVE ME A FUCKEN MENU
  
  Yeah. Fuck restaurants that expect me to scan a damned qr code for a fucking menu.
  
  I walk into a restaurant that has an app, I'll never go back again. What a horrible way to try to find food.
- I don't really mind them pushing the app. Just don't make the mobile site shit or redirect to the app

This is the meme that made me create an account here. Barely using reddit now, but I noticed these last days they were pushing lukewarm content to the top. And a lot of content on phone web browsers was/is locked, could only read the first 2 or 3 answers.
- Check out https://m.lemmy.world
  
  Oh my. That website is even better. Why isn't that website the default in mobile browsers? I'm new, and I'm reading that now I need to create a new account in world (I'm in ml). Right?
- And the quality of discussion gets lower every time I go on. Has been for years, incrementally, but the rate really increased after June 30. I used to be able to get pretty far down through 4 or 5 worldnews threads before I ran into something so stupid I closed the entire window, but now it happens on just about every thread I open.
- Oh, they've gone full Quora?
  
  It was some posts, a lot, not all of them. Maybe it was a bug at one time when they started to implement their new API changes. I don't know, and I don't care at the moment. :)

Just curious... When did regular comics become memes?
- Around the time meme came to mean any joke in an image file format
  
  Gary Larson was my favorite memer. Ever seen The Far Side memes?
- Always has been by both the official definition of the word and the more modern internet use of it
  
  That's not really true though.
- Now that I think about it, maybe they always have been, sort of? The earliest memes I remember are the rage comics
  Though, I feel like "meme" = funny relatable thing nowadays.
- About the time Saruman abandoned reason for madness.
  
  We must join the memes, Gandalf. It would be wise, my friend.

Test comment, please ignore

I've mainly used Reddit on PC and only used apps for porn (because in-app autoplay is so much better). Them disabling NSFW from API completely makes it completely useless for latter. Really hoping lemmy becomes the new big thing where you can scroll, comment, and jerk off. Possibly at the same time.

I actively avoid sites that do this, if I find that I'm on the site enough to Warrant getting the app I'll get the app. I actually didn't realize that Reddit enforced this until about 5 or 6 months ago because they didn't enforce that when I first started using reddit, I had already moved over to third party applications before they implemented the system. Not that it matters much anymore, I uninstalled any apps I had for the platform and blocked it for the house. I'm done with it
- I wish I could act so decisively on that, but I still need Reddit access for the wisdom of others on solving issues.
  So instead I just make sure I only browse it with Firefox, using uBlock Origin to prevent them from getting ad revenue.
  
  That's where I'm at with reddit, and where I've been with Facebook for years. Though, interestingly, Slim Social for Facebook has gotten around this quite well for Facebook, for everything except for messages until very recently, where you have to ask for the desktop site. Maybe someone can come up with something similar for reddit...
  
  Try to convince them to move here. Maybe eventually they will.

It’s so easy nowadays to slap some bootstrap and Angular together to build a web frontend. It will work on every device if you don’t do crazy cutting-edge shit. I cannot comprehend why companies dig native apps so much.
- D A T A H A R V E S T I N G
  
  ^ this. your browser is a user agent, it's working for you, to protect you from any schmuck who you have the misfortune of visiting. it has strict built-in privacy and security guarantees, which, while in no way interfere with the app's primary functionality, do interfere in their marketing bullshit and other kinds of spying.
  with apps, you have none of that protective layer, instead there is a certain degree of implied trust which these parties love to abuse.
  
  Maybe for some companies. For others the main draw card is push notifications and a big shiny icon for the product on your phone. Also, just FOMO when every other company has an app.
- With a native app, the only thing you really need to send back and forth is some JSON data and let the app do the formatting for you. It's a much better arrangement when your target demographic includes those with bad internet.
  
  How is that any different from a web site? There are multiple caches between the browser and the server. The initial load (assuming a prior visit and no updates since) may be smaller than 1kB.
  
  you can do that with a browser too. with service workers, it can also run without an internet connection and/or indefinitely cache the ui part so that it's also just a json api. most websites already work in a very similar way, and even if it's not intentionally set up this way, your browser will do its best to make it like this to keep your user experience snappy.
  your browser just also protects you from certain level of system access that shouldn't be granted to any random website you visit, and that's what these apps want.

Goddamnit Reddit.

App-less bitch has a nice ring to it, I might start using that lol
- Yea, I got a good laugh from this

Reddit in a nutshell lmao

Yeah, it sucks because you can do really cool stuff with web apps these days but no, instead I need 140 native apps for basically every mobile service because their mobile websites are abhorrently designed and basically only exist to point you towards the app.
- Oh, don't worry. All those "native" apps are just using chrome webview to display some webapp.
  
  Oh, I'm fully aware. That's honestly the kicker, they could host those apps on the web and have me be able to access everything through my browser, but no, instead I have to install their stupid apps just so they can harvest my data.

Sounds about right. Their site is bad, the app is bad.. pure profit driven.

Try Sink It for Reddit, it’s a Safari extension that removes those nuisances
https://apps.apple.com/app/id6449873635
- Do you really want to use the website, if you really need an extension because of that bullshit?
  
  We are using the better version right now to discuss ways to [not] shoehorn the worse version back into our lives, lol.

Using sh.itjust.works with the compact is actually nice on desktop.
Wefwef on mobile

Ugh for the longest time the investment firm I use had one product locked away on their app. Thankfully I checked today and I can sign up and use it on the web!

I agree, just not with their app

i wish apple could regulate this tighter to demolish the hundreds of shitty companies and practices that evolved post-iphone. notification ads, this garbage, any sort of app tracking, shitty subscriptions, shitty IAPs, etc etc etc
- Regulate this tighter? Apple profits from this, if anything they'd prefer if websites died altogether. Apple wants you using an app downloaded from the App Store, using iOS APIs and their own guidelines, with iOS centric design, rather than the website where the webmaster can freely control your experience and monetize you using methods not profitable for Apple.
  
  which is why ios on safari is the worst mainstream browser on the market since internet explorer died

I'm finding I kinda hate Lemmy on desktop without an RES equivalent though too. I miss being able to expand images and videos inline. Is there anything similar for Lemmy?
- You got me scratching my head there ngl. If by inline expansion, you mean to say being able to show image in full size without clicking into details of the post, then I am seeing it's already there. And so far I haven't tweaked any UI settings on the website.
  
  Oh neat, I was clicking the image, not the little image logo in the corner. Learned something new.
  It still doesn't let you drag to resize/zoom like RES does for images and videos, but better than what I was originally thinking. RES also works on image links in comments, which I don't see in Lemmy yet.
  Example 1
  Example 2

To this point, I wish Threads had a desktop UI.
- METAs apps effin stink! They're buggy, have annoying habits and I can't do a lot of the stuff I want. The most annoying part of them is their instance on their handcrafted image selector which vaguely sorts content by date.
  I've got 20 years of images on my phone. If I want to post an image to a comment that I took 10 years ago, I'll be sitting there scrolling like a numbnut to find it. On web-apps I can just use the file browser or even Android extension to find the image I want in a way that makes sense.
- Probably later. Even Instagram has Windows app.
- Gross
- Why would anyone use Threads?
- why tf would you use it???
  
  I work from home and don't spend a lot of time on mobile.

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