The Zuckiverse and you

Hey peeps. By now you all heard that Zuck's meta has started and in a defederated mode. This instance has already signed the Anti-Meta Fedi Pact and we plan to not help improve the value of Facebook, if and when they plan to open federation.

However I am thinking we can have a bit of fun beforehand.

You see, Threads is extremely sanitized in order to be "corporate friendly". Naturally this makes their service as exciting as a bowl of plain porridge. However in order to keep their corporate partners happy, they are also extremely cautious about anything controversial and will likely defederate from anything too spicy.

So why not use this an an opportunity to make Threads defederate from us?

What would you say that we leave federation up, but use the opportunity to share with the larger threads populace some important information about filesharing? Sharing is caring after all and we have plenty of knowledge to give.

Naturally, if this doesn't work, we will defed them ourselves soon after anyway, but I expect it will. What say you all?

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I don't think it is a good idea. We should block them immediately. Nobody knows what they will be capable of doing.
- I am inclined to agree - trying to weigh things up:
  Pros
  Bragging rights to be able to say that we got Threads to defederate from us.
  May hurt Threads' popularity in the short term.
  A warm fuzzy feeling from the above two points.
  Umm... that's it?
  Cons
  Potentially undermines the impact the Anti-Meta Pact by not immediately defederating with them, actions are usually stronger in unison.
  Related to the above, any instance federated with them, even if they then become hostile, adds to marketing numbers to allow Threads to legitimise themselves as being connected to X other communities.
  The "Court of Public Opinion" probably won't be too sympathetic to us if we spam mommy Meta's new social network with goatse. I suppose that shouldn't matter, but if we make ourselves too unpopular it may be a pain in the ass if more mainstream instances like lemmy.world defed from us due to making ourselves pariahs.
  Potentially brings the Eye of Sauron upon us.
  Weight these how you will, and please let me know if there's others to add to the list. To me the cons outweigh the pros, though I am willing to have my mind changed.-

No thank you, give them access to user info even one time is too many.
- they don't get access to user info anyway
  
  But they would if they’re allowed to federate. This is a company that builds shadow profiles on people that don’t even use fb. You really think they’re not going to try and get what they can get their hands on by any means necessary?

Sounds fun and I would love it. But we will playing with the “devil”, and you know, it has plenty more power… and resources.

I don't think that's a good idea. Facebook/Meta is a billion dollar company, if we start sending them piracy stuff, it could trigger a lawsuit that brings down this instance. I mean they might not win, but I mean, dude, u got money for legal fees? Because we don't. Court cases takes way to long and you'll get bankrupt before the case is concluded. If we defederate immediately, we avoid this problem.

I don't like the idea and really don't want Zuck being anywhere near the fediverse.

I do not support this idea. You know what they say about having a cracked tail light whilst you're driving around with a car full of cocaine.
That's a no from me, dawg. Defederate before they can suck up any data at all.
- I don't disagree but isn't the data on Lemmy public anyways? If they wanted they could scrape it, whether we defederate or not, couldn't they?

I like your thought process, but this is a bad idea
It's a lot like poisoning your chickens to defend against foxes. It might work, it might not, but it only makes sense if you're willing to sacrifice the chickens to take out some foxes

It's a better idea than spouting Neo-Nazi shit, but I'm not sure this is the greatest idea if your account is linked to any other accounts. They could trace it back to you and fuck you up (legally).
I for one am connected through Tor and used a new email address hosted by Danwin, so I am going to sail the high seas on here. Yo ho!
- Note, I wasn't talking about doing anything illegal. But I'm sure Facebook won't be happy if people even link to the The Pirate Bay frontpage

I need someone smarter than me to come up with all the ways this could go wrong. It sounds cool to me but I don't know anything
- yeah I have a gut feeling it's not as simple as it looks, but I can't tell what it is logically

Create a goatse community and ensure it's always on the front page of threads.
- When they talk about an open standard, I don't think this is what they meant.
  
  Oh it'll be open.

I'd rather just defederate from them and be done with it.

As long as they don't get access to our data I think we will be fine? I'm definitely not joining threads but I don't see any issues in federating with them either.
- The user data they will be able to access is the same you can see in a user profile, things like posts, username and matrix contact. I am not really sure if they will see your upvotes and down votes because I have seen a post in ysk showing you can see who votes in posts. I would like to know if this is enough to profile someone but I am not knowledgeable in that area
  
  sure but they won't be able to link that data to your phone or the other apps you're using so how are they going to know who's data it is

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