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1y ago

The transphobia stops now

This community is housed on an instance run by two trans women, focused on the needs of the queer and gender diverse community.

We allowed 196 here because we were promised the community is queer and trans inclusive.

If you're here it's because you're aggressively supportive of trans folk. Not middle of the ground, not "just asking questions".

If your response to that is, "yes, but..." then this isn't the instance for you, and by extension, this isn't the community for you.

tl;dr - Unambiguous support and inclusion, or fuck off somewhere else.

Edit - I changed the phrase "aggressive support to "unambiguous support", as there was some confusion over the intent behind my previous phrasing.

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Aggressive support given!
- WHATS THAT SORRY I CANT HEAR YOU IM CRANKING THE HOG RIGHT NOW TRANSPHOBES GTFO (DISRESPECTFULLY) 🏳️‍⚧️

This is what the fediverse was created for. Casual transphobia doesn't need to be permitted and I fully support that.

Every single transphobe right now:
- Literally right below this.
- basically lamb glinahan.

HELL YEAH 💖
- ~~Can you see my reply? I'm on lemmy.world and I thought it was still defederated from Beehaw so I shouldn't be able to see your comment O_o~~ (I'm used to being more active on my beehaw account so using my lemmy.world account threw me off, disregard this lol)
  P.S. Yay trans rights and having a pro-trans meme space 😄
  
  Being defederated just means you can't see new posts on beehaw communities and they can't see your communities at all. If your instance and beehaw are both federated with a third instance, like the one this community is on, then you'll still be able to see comments by beehaw users on that instance.
  
  I can see your comment, but I'm on mastodon.cloud. 🙂

Thank god. Reddit and Twitter were ruined by the transphobic and Nazis. Glad that isn’t tolerated here.

Thank you so much. We need that more than anything right now — where transphobic content tends to be the default on the web.
If this is the time to go full aggressive for our rights, count me in!
(And if you’re here to passive-aggressively complain about how you « don’t care about people’s sexuality » and making everyone notice you’re leaving — let me be very active-aggressive in saying « good fucking riddance » to you.)
- heheh, i like this comment

"Not gay as in happy, but queer as in fuck you!"
TRANS RIGHTS
- after seeing this for a brief moment i forgot lemmy supported headings in markdown and assumed it started supporting MFM
  i've been spending too much time on ~~calckey~~ firefish

There was transphobia in 196? HOW?
- One of the mods made a post about how this comment being really creepy about trans men's bodies somehow wasn't transphobic and then deleted it after people started calling them out lol
  
  Thank you for providing good context on this thread. The original comment was ass, but not important overall. If the mod hadn't decided to explicitly defend it, this wouldn't even be a conversation. This entire discourse would have been avoided if it wasn't for a shitty mod post.
- Most people seem to agree it wasn't transphobia, but here's the context: https://lemmy.world/post/1893561
  There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active, but they got shut down pretty quickly
  
  There was some transphobia that came crawling out like usually happens when a trans topic starts getting active
  That is what prompted this post. It happens every single time trans stuff comes up. There is no space for it here.
  
  The post seems transphobic in a "chaser" sort of way to me, not trans though.
- Honestly I didn’t realize this was a trans community. I thought ‘196’ was just some random number like the ‘4’ in 4chan. 196 just had good content. The fact it’s inclusive is just a bonus.
  
  The entire instance lemmy.blahaj.zone is a trans themed instance therefore every community on it is slanted towards trans community and support.
  https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Blåhaj
  
  That's partially to blame for all 196 communities having this weird "if you know you know" approach to writing their mission statement and rules. I've seen numerous people ask wth is 196 because of how vague the communities they saw were.
  But, particularly about the social politics, here's also the thing I think. Trans rights are human rights. Communities fall under two categories: Welcoming to trans people, versus inherently evil. So I don't think that a community is pro-trans should ever have to be stated. It should be assume, and whoever has a problem with it should go fuck off from society, Satan has a place for them.
  
  It's not a trans community per se, it's more of a more trans-friendly shitposting community. Like, I think, even now majority of posters aren't trans. And majority of content is not trans-themed, it's not traa. It's a good place if you don't want to see only trans-themed memes, but also don't want to see transphobia
  
  Variety makes things better.

i am old and cis but trans shitposters are the best shitposters, this is indisputable. you have my support
- And my axe! 🎸
  
  and my d20

Damn ~~straight~~ queer.
I'm just your run-of-the-mill white cismale dude, but I know several trans people in real life including an old friend of mine and a 7-year-old kid across the street from me. Everyone deserves respect and dignity of life.

100% based; Was already worried where this community was headed
BLÅHAJ Lemmy W

Hello, Based Department, we've got another Based Community here.
Trans rights are human rights!

Trans rights are women's rights.
Trans rights are men's rights.
Trans rights are human rights.
If you believe otherwise, you're doing nothing less than questioning the basic humanity of Trans people. And you can fuck right off.

Sad to hear that's been happening on Blahaj. Full and unambiguous support from me! 🐝
- It hasn't been happening on Blahaj as such. The transphobes come from other instances, but have been posting their BS here
  
  Right, that's what I imagined. If there's anything I can help with or if you just want to vent, feel free to DM at any time on Matrix

I'm mostly just a lurker in this community but here I go: Trans rights are human rights 👍
- Trans rights 💪✊!!
  Still cis though 🥵

Making all the transphobes come out of the woodwork to get banned with this one~ Appreciate everyone's unambiguous support <3

Trans women are women. Girldick is best dick.
Know that you are loved. ^And also sexually objectified. Sorry bout that... ^
-Sincerely a cis lesbian.
- Can you explain the girldick thing? I'm a transman and that comes off as one of the many things that are low key alienating in expressions of support, but it's possible I'm just mistaken.
  
  I'm not the person you were seeking clarification from but I took her comment to mean that she is a cis woman that's sexually attracted to women, but also enjoys P.I.V. sex. Therfore she would be happy to discover that a woman she is attracted to has a penis.
  That's just my interpretation though.
  
  The original reference (which triggered the OP to post) is a cis man saying he wouldn't sleep with a pre op trans woman.
  He said something along the lines that girldick is disgusting, I'm saying it's hot.
  If that's problematic I can delete (not sure how that works on lemmy though). I would rather hear it from a trans woman though. If you want to discuss, go for it.
- And Trans women are cool!
  -Sincerely an allied cis man

I don't subscribe to this community but I found your post in the top of my feed. And want people to know, you have my support. I think it's awesome that you're able to build this community.
I'm not going to be aggressive in any online discussion but I am very sensitive to the situation. My brother was a gay man who had lots of difficulties and ultimately took his own life. I will always wonder if society was different, if he'd still be here.
So I will never shy away in real life. I promised the memories of my brother to always be that change that is needed. I will be that cis dude who takes the time to try and change people who show me their bigotry.
I know people in real life who have transitioned. It's a very difficult process and anyone who feels that they need it, they should have access to it. The look of being comfortable in one's own skin afterwards is absolutely observable. I can only do what I can do but you will always have an ally in me.
- I'd hug you right now if I could.

🏳️‍🌈fuck your hate🏳️‍🌈

Trans people are regular, real people. Like my college friend. Or my wife's HS friend. Or that one kind soul I worked with once.
I'm so god damn sick of all the hatred and lies and bullshit and murder and sadistic laws against trans people.
I loudly applaud any space that actively supports trans people and gives them a place free from hatred and assholes.
- The fact that they need a space away from everyone else, and the fact that this post even had to be made, is a testament to mankind's inhumanity to man. People are people, but there's an unsettling amount of people that can't see past creed, color, sexuality, and so on.
  I'd say it's a monument to our own hubris as well. We're the most advanced civilization that we know exists, but still can't seem to treat members of our own society right.

It's comforting to know that this community is intolerant of transphobia

WHAT THE FUCK (RESPECTFULLY) FUCK UNAMBIGUOUS SUPPORT AGGRESSIVE SUPPORT TILL THE DAY I DIE MOTHERFUCKR 🏳️‍⚧️
- Both are welcome, but unambiguous is the minimum requirement. You're more than welcome to go above and beyond :)
  
  What is aggressive support?

Thank you! I followed 196 over here from Reddit when it moved and I appreciate you reaffirming its principles. I think the move to Lemmy paradoxically gave 196 more visibility to people who don't necessarily agree with those principles because its posts wind up so prominent on All, especially in smaller instances. It's kind of hilarious how many posts I've seen asking why people on Lemmy say "rule" all the time 😂
Edit: in closing, fuck transphobes

Remember; not supporting trans rights means you're on the same side as those using laws and judges to strip women of their autonomy around the world. <3
- Which is why it's important to give no quarter to fascism and theocracy no matter where you live.
  Proud to carry my Satanic Temple card right next to my goddamn union membership book.

Thanks for this, honestly it was worrying how many upvotes some transphobic replies were getting.
- A reminder that open registration on even a single federated instance means that having 50 sockpuppets to upvote yourself is trivial. Scores here should not be taken as consensus

Nobody deserves to be bullied or hated for simply existing. Transphobes go away! Trans rights are human rights!

I'm glad yall posted this but I'm bummed it's no longer "aggressive." Anybody who pretends that the wording of "aggressive support" is concerning is probably afraid of triggering that aggression themselves... and they should be.
- People were thinking that aggressive meant that they had to be explicitly active in trans spaces and talking about trans stuff. What I wanted to convey is that someone doesn't have to talk about trans stuff to post here, but if they do talk about trans stuff, it needs to be unambiguously supportive.
  I however remain aggressively supportive, and will continue to ban bigots, reply guys and "just asking question" dog whistlers as soon as they appear :)
  
  That's why people like me will continue coming here.

What the fuck, transphobia on 196?
Trans rights 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️
- FOR TRANSPHOBES ITS BECOME ECONOMICALLY NONVIABLE TO LIVE IN LOSER CITY BUT SORRY (SMUGLY) MTHERFUCKERS TRANSPHOBES NEED NOT APPLY 🏳️‍⚧️

Will spend the next days reporting transphobes if necessary <3 best wishes from Germany

Based.
Thank you for creating a safe space. I'm an ally to the LGBTQ+ community and am happy there's a space not for "everyone", but for those willing to accept trans folk and silence those against them (while having funny posts on it as well).

As an Asexual Gender-Fluid person with trans friends, I fully support this

I'm here because 196 shows up on my feed and I really enjoy the memes.
I also have absolutely no problem with trans individuals or really any lifestyle anyone wants to live that isn't hurting anyone else.
That said, was there an incident recently on here that spurred the creation of this post? Did something go down?
Edit: Changed "bothering" to "hurting" because I frankly don't give a fuck about the feelings of the type of people that are "bothered" by LGBT+.
- Someone made a comment saying that they'd be down to fuck a trans man if they hadn't transitioned yet because he likes women. It was controversial, but then one of the mods here decided to post a screenshot of that comment on the main, and the people in the comments were fucking horrendous. It's all "I'm an ally, but..." statements. Some of them were fine, but even the best ones were just people taking the opportunity to say that they don't wanna fuck trans people. And that's fine, you don't have to be attracted to trans people at all, but a trans safe space isn't the spot for that discussion at all.
  The mod shouldn't have posted what's essentially bait, nor should they have not actually moderated the thread after posting the bait. I'm pretty sure the instance admin ended up having to handle it. The guy who made the original comment is saying it was him, but that's not really what matters. This controversy was more about properly moderating the space than anything.
  
  Random person: exists
  Assholes: Everyone needs to know whether I would fuck this person or not!
  
  Gotcha. Thanks for taking the time to reply.

Damn straight. Us queers need to stand together and there can be no god damn LGBTQ+ without the flippin T.
- Us ~~queers~~ need to stand together
  I'm not trying to co-opt anything. Far from. I just want to remind everyone that you don't need to know your place in the rainbow to want to see its beauty.

Heck yeah! Fuck Transphobia!

I loved the original 196 and how supportive it was for LGBTQ+ people. Also because it was hilarious. Keep rockin

Thank God. THAT post earlier was shocking me.

TRANS RIGHTS!!! 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

TRANS RIGHTS ARE HUMAN RIGHTS

Trans rights!
I'm more of a casual user so I haven't seen the transphobia here but fuck transphobes and you should all have a place to feel safe.

Trans rights are human rights. Trans people's existence doesn't get to be dictated on other's whims, or have their validity be aproved by other's checklists. Trans people get to live and be respected. Dismissing someone's right to live that literally is just trying to exist peacfully just because you don't feel like treating them as a human being says everything. I want to have trans people feel safe in their environments,whichever that is (online or irl), and we can't achieve that unless we're vocal, straightfoward and fierce in our activism for trans rights. Because trans rights are human rights. Thank you for being here and being a part of this community.
- Ngl I joined this community because I thought it was a trans meme sub/community/whatever based on the colours in the logo :3

Trans rights! Y'all deserve aggressive support!

Oh cool, I was getting kind of uncomfortable with how things were going, this sounds just right.

As far as I know the original subreddit this com came from was very trans, to the point where I, as a cis straight ally, was nervous that I was somehow not supposed to be in it. And I'm pretty sure I wasn't the only one.
So I'm witchu
I must have good filters or something, because I don't think I've noticed any TP / TERFing in here. Sad.
(of course i follow from a mastodon account so i probably miss a lot of stuff)
- Just so you know, before I say anything, I am happy that you've joined this community. I don't want anything I say to seem like I'm discouraging you from participating. The overall point of what I'm about to say is that this should be a trans community. I don't want you to feel uncomfortable because you don't know if you're allowed, but at the same time I wish that non-queer people as a group had to have a moment of empathy of "oh this place isn't for me". It's a similar fear to how trans people feel in men's and women's spaces
  196 is extremely trans oriented at this point, to the point that I'd consider it a borderline trans community. I like that it isn't fully trans though. You know how often cis people have a monopoly on the conversation on a distributed community? There's nothing necessarily wrong with cis people having that control, but why can't trans people have that same space? Other people are allowed of course, but if we have to enter a separate reality for other people's communities, other people should have to enter ours. There's no way for us to force an equal medium, the best way we can enforce that is by wanting empathetic but easy experiences for other.
  
  WADR, that's really not at all been true.
  https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/z1kzd6/r196isinclusiveyoudontneedtofeelexcluded/
  https://www.reddit.com/r/196/comments/y6v4kf/the196demographicsurveywhichabout6000/

You have my full support.
As a.. whatever the hell I am.. I support everyone to be who they want to be. No exceptions.

Also people remember to report assholes! Don't interact, report them. Mods will handle it.

TRANS RIGHTS FUCK YEAH 🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

Just wondering what does 196 means anyway? Clueless lemmy user here.
Ps I'm ally of LGBTQ2S+.
- Back on Reddit some dude and his roomates made a subreddit called r/195 (their dorm number). It only had one rule, when you visit, you have to post a meme. Eventually the public found the subreddit and started posting their own memes. It got huge and out of hand and some awful stuff started getting posted so they finally deleted the subreddit. That disappointed a bunch of people so a sequel was made, r/196. This community is a recreation of that second subreddit.
  
  This should be in the sidebar so the lore isn’t lost.
- 196 was a shitposting subreddit back on, uh, Reddit, which had one rule - you had to post before you left.
  It became known as a very trans-friendly shitposting subreddit and honestly probably one of the better shitposting subreddits in general.
  Now it's migrated at least partially to the Fediverse.
- All I know is that 196 communities have The Rule which is that you must post something before you leave.
- @Lightsong
  
  Sorry if I'm being dense but how does that relate to transphobia? Do the messages they post tend to be transphobic or something?

thank you so much for making this clear again ada, it was getting bad :(

🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️🏳️‍⚧️

Go go go. I’m so sick and tired of the hatred, the ignorance and frankly speaking, the stupidness.
I’m from a culture that is not very forgiving and tolerant, even though on the tin it says we are.
And it took me years to see and understand it. Now that I’ve conquered that ignorance, hell no we are not going to regress!!

Wait, what happened?
- From what I can tell, a stupid thread made by a confused cis straight person who was talking about why he wouldn't have sex with a trans man. Then some transphobes showed up and were banned.
  This instance is a safe space for sexual and gender minorities. If cis people want to talk about their sexual preferences with regards to trans people, there are a million and one other instances to do so in. This space is not the place to do so. It should go without saying that nothing that could even be perceived as mildly insensitive towards trans people should be tolerated here. This instance should be one place we can frequent without ever having to deal with any kind of cis and straight nonsense.
  
  I think it's totally legit to say you're not attracted to a particular body configuration. It wasn't OP that bothered me, it was all the turdbuckets who showed up to pilot on.
  
  Was the OP a blahaj account, or someone from a different instance?

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TRANS RIGHTS