EM POC WEEKLY THREAD 11/18/2024
This is home for me.
I love all of my comrades on c/em_poc, but I wanna especially give a huge shoutout to @sweet_pecan@hexbear.net for doing a lot to help me keep my composure. I don't know if they quite realize how much I appreciate them!
Each and every single one of you makes me feel less alone through these struggles, though.
I hope all of you are well!
Yo, this mass-deportation talk is scaring the fuck out of me. After working at various immigrants rights orgs, it seriously sounded hyperbolized—cuz like, I know the racist-ass sentiment to mass-deport is strong in America, but I kept thinking that it’s an impossible task, logistically.
But then lately I’ve been seeing all the “fuck around find out” lib-fash shit and it’s starting to seem like a feasible task. Like how the fuck could it not be if the libs are expressly saying they’ll turn a blind fucking eye.
I find it hilarious that white people are telling me that "I am going to be sorry " for voting green party as if I'm not already sorry to have been born in a country which will never accept me.
People like us have been facing threat , certainly from the time that we become a sexual threat or quarry to white men. My life has been war from when I was 12 years old until I forced them to stop messing with me.
So I can't help but laugh in the face of some white dude who has never felt threatened in his life telling me that I am not accurately assessing the forces arrayed against me.
telling me that "I am going to be sorry "
The crackers are warning you that they'll join the purge against people like us when the time comes.
They have no self-awareness at how much they sound like the "bad whites".
SAY IT LOUD!!! IM BLACK AND IM PROUD!!!
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I'M BLACK, AND I'M PROUD!!!
On Instagram, in regards to Sarah McBride being a reactionary, Zionist piece of libshit, I stated
Reminder that a white person being a part of a marginalized group does NOT absolve them of their whiteness and KKKolonizer mentality
Fittingly enough, a white trans woman responded, "People who unironically use Maoist Standard English need to be studied."
I didn't even put up with it; I just straight-up blocked.
It's pretty obvious what's going on here. Trans cracKKKer is upset that my very real and true statement struck a nerve, but SShe has no way of responding without taking the mask off and putting the hood on, so what SShe did instead was poke fun at me for using MSE. Basically, it's an ad hominem SShe used to KKKompenSSate for her being a SSalty KKKraKKKKKKer.
What's even more telling about this is that MSE intends to sprinkle humor into statements regardless, but usage of it obviously doesn't lessen the accuracy of what I'm saying.
"Maoist Standard English" came from AAVE anyways, so it's fitting a white woman would have a problem with it.
Typical
, I feel for yeThere's something eerily depressing about the fact that even a "good and expected to be much better than average" leftist space like Hexbear is still incapable of being truly respectful to POC.
It makes me wonder if there is truly any hope for the whites to be decent, even in leftist spaces.
I've been quite depressed all morning, but definitely for more reasons than just Hexbear being this degree of racist that utterly shocked me. I think it's still getting to me because I'm in such a shock that, for the first time, a Hexbear post led me into a deep depression that made me cry and have to seek mental health support just to calm down enough to go to sleep.
I never thought this would've happened.
I've not had trust in white people for the majority of my life at this point. I don't remember when I didn't have that suspicion in the the back of my brain going off. I can tolerate and interact with white people, but the distrust is always there. Too many people who I thought were friends, family, or lovers that would flip the racist switch on the moment I got uppity.
No , unfortunately there is not much hope for us but we can move the ball forward for the next generations and in the meantime stand in solidarity with the left but also with each other .
We are still the out group here and that will usually not be acknowledged but during times of stress we will always be the fall guys.
The only danger is ever thinking that we are not in danger
If they were forced to like they were with transphobia, they would shape up or ship out aside from the wreckers
Or like with yakubian and pumpkin spice jokes they'd just die out after the site (with mod help) decides it's unacceptable
adult white queers who base their identity around Greek mythology are the actual worse. like 90% if them are white supremacist. i will not fuck with them, I genuinely despise them. please grow the fuck up and research any other part of history. if you can tell me about how gay ancient greek and rome were but not any other country you are a queer white supremacist.
Cis white men: obsessed about ancient rome and greece because strong alpha male
Queer whites: obsessed about them because uhm actually they were super gay
Reality: they're obsessed about them because they think they were white
yes!! exactly! and its not like they study the actual history. the celebrate a fantasy version of ancient Greece free of misogyny and slavey. like I cant tell you how many queer people I've heard say things like "I don't want to go to work, I want to be gay and write poems all day, eating grapes, like i should be doing in ancient Greece" GIRL Sappho didn't do actual work because she had SLAVES, you're fantasizing about being a slave owner right now. same thing with white queers who call themselves achilleans. like sapphic is less bad because it has an etymological reason for existing, it has a history. ACHILEANS are white queers who are obsessed with tic tok "retellings" of ancient greek myths that they think are canon. no joke raina i have met dozens and dozens of these people and they are insufferable
Western version of toxic yaoi tropes at some point, just purely vibes based.
Al_Sham deleted her account T_T she was one of our best posters
The reality of being EMPOC on this site, unfortunately...
Nooooo, her posts in the news megathread were the best part of this website, it's the main reason I signed up :(
Does she have an account anywhere else?
Noooo idea, but the news megathread will never be the same T_T
??? why?
wasnt because of the dunk tank drama was it
A fucking tragedy for the site tbh, still can't get over it... :c
Spent a lot of time around whitey this week and they're completely shook over Trump winning (as though they're the ones who will face any serious consequences). Not one mention of Palestine. They'll list every reason under the sun except the elephant in the room. People didn't show up to vote because the options were Tojo and Hitler. Genocide overseas or genocide at home.
A more generous (but naive) person would say they're just ignorant of what's been happening and are hyper-focused on Trump and Musk. But I think they do know and want to pretend it isn't happening and the US isn't complicit. They either agree with zionism or they think of the US as "the good guys." They don't want to say it out loud because then they'd have to acknowledge what we're doing and the cognitive dissonance would physically manifest.
Related to this all, I went to a funeral for a guy I met once or twice, but was related to one of my mom's lifelong friends. I was told everyone was vaxxed and they really wanted to see me there etc. etc. Lo and behold, this motherfucking whitey shows up and she's got the coof. "She's past the five days of being contagious and tested negative this morning and...." No, shut the fuck up. I have a compromised immune system. Nor do I want it. And of course people are hugging her and coming up to chat but it's "fine because she's wearing a mask" (that isn't the right kind and she's taking off to blow her nose as she cries over her dead relative). And of course she gets up and goes to stand by the drinks and cookies to chat with people and cry.
Luckily I already got my free shit so I was able to leave. Got into the car and immediately had a "Thanks for not saying 'Another crackkker down unlimited genocide on the first world' at Grandpa's funeral, that took a lot of restraint," play in my head. I was the only non-white person there out of like 100+ people. Maybe they'll all get covid and I can gloat later, so that's nice.
I was the only non-white person there out of like 100+ people.
Dayum, that's a "Get Out"-esque situation, if I ever heard of one...
Yah luckily didn't have to deal with chuds, just the usual shitlibs. Really made me go 🤔🤔🤔 though. It's kinda sus when there's not one POC among your immediate friends or family, let alone 100 people lmao
This is exactly it. It was liberal Zionists who lost this election.
I love how I'm seeing tons of white liberal women on social media constantly say "Kamala lost because of misogyny" while not bringing up white supremacy at all. It's strikingly funny to me how often they've avoided mentioning the racial aspect because they'd feel too complicit in contributing to not just Kamala's loss but the very racist institutions responsible for keeping POC oppressed themselves if they actually were to address these things.
This reminds me of this comment of mine.
I literally saw a post that showed Trump voter stats for race and gender, but they were completely separate, and white people and men as groups were roughly the same percentage, but this liberal white woman commented on the post, "Wow, men are not okay" or something to that effect. This is just reinforcing the theory that many Western white feminists do not care about ending oppression; they just want patriarchy to stop inconveniencing them personally. They'll side with white supremacy if given the chance.
On top of that, all of these various scratched liberal moments have been excellent case studies on how little liberals care about oppression that doesn't personally impact them. Hell, they actually want to keep it flourishing! Any liberal who says otherwise is just doing the typical performative, bourgeois bullshit.
And this isn't even me going into the obvious flaws of focusing so much on identity as the foremost reason why Kamala lost while neglecting a multitude of many other reasons.
This is facts. And on that list number 23 is the dagger. They've been calling leftists the accelerationists yet the politicians they form weird parasocial relationships with accelerate the fuckery far more than any of us possibly could. What could be more accelerationist than deteriorating conditions and wages, exploitative healthcare, price gouging on prices not being addressed, pushing for catastrophic wars, worsening climatd collapse. If anything you could argue the "tankies" have been trying to save em from themselves. The politicians like biden etc who they have odd pet names for will herald their demise.
Even for forms of bigotry not directly related to race, marginalized white people in leftist spaces seem to seriously have far less skepticism than I do as an intersectional black person in leftist spaces.
For instance, as a black trans person, not only do I expect white people in leftist spaces to have racist brainworms, but I expect cis people in leftist spaces to have transphobic brainworms as well.
However, it seems like white trans people in leftist spaces, on the other hand, not only ignore their own racist brainworms, but it seems that so many of them just all willy-nilly assume that your average cisgender person in leftist spaces is going to be totally accepting of trans people and not have any strong transphobic brainworms whatsoever.
I find that they don't have enough skepticism, but I do believe that I'm on the opposite end of this issue, in that I have too much skepticism. It's to a point where I feel that somebody being white and/or cis in and of itself is a major red flag for me.
A kind-of-an-example-of-this-but-not-really I recall is when a user on Hexbear posted a thread about SSouth KKKorean gender troubles, and they referenced the 4B movement and praised it as some kind of "epic, based WAOW! feminist movement," and many trans users were commenting on this post praising 4B as well. After it came out that 4B is racist, bioessentialist, and just flat-out awful in so many ways, people were cringing at themselves.
What's my point? Well, if I hear about any female separatist movement, especially in a place like Occupied KKKorea, my first thought isn't going to be, "Wow, this is epic girl power and a powerful middle finger to patriarchy!" Instead, my first thought is going to be, "Let me research this group and find out about all of the terrible shit that they support, and while I'm at it, let me acknowledge how undialectical their movement is, as it has no demands and it is rooted in zero feminist theory."
The fact that womanists have pushed against white feminists doing this shit in the United States educates my skepticism very well here.
I 100% agree with you because mainstream feminism is extremely liberal, non-intersectional, bioessentialist, and effectively amounts to "reactionary thought and white supremacy in heels" more than anything else.
I may never label myself as a feminist again, but I take no shame and nothing but pride in calling myself a womanist.
westerners consider the zionist entity a democracy
What's especially silly is fascism has primarily manifested in the Imperial Core and the times it manifested in the Global South it was backed by a government from the North. The go-to example of fascism in the 3rd. world is Pinochet, who was backed by the US. Pol Pot is iffy because he was a weird Anarcho-Primativist "third position" dictator, but (again) he was also backed by the US and his crimes escalated with American support rolled in.
They really don't get how long the struggle has been going on and how many have died during this time period. We've tried peaceful solutions and whitey has rejected each and every one of those solutions. The only course of action is revolution. And revolutions are violent, bloody affairs. The material conditions of climate change will demand it if the contradictions of capitalism don't do it first.
But of course, "just one more election." One more reformer politician. One more campaign to funnel people towards solicialism. As if these all haven't been done ad nauseum for the last century and a half.
I don't know if I'm just a bitter old man already but whenever I hear other grown black men whine and complain about being a nerd I find it irksome. Like bro I get it, I was bullied and shit too. I feel for you I really do, but at the same time, we are grown. Just like whatever shit you like man. It isn't a big deal. No one cares. It's fine, like what you like, do your thing. It also doesn't make you special, everyone likes nerdshit now.
It'd be different we were in like middle-school or high school, but my brother we have 401ks now, just buy your little figures and shut the fuck up.
Can't tell me that's not a significant source of misleadership.
For real! So many of the big "black excellence™℠®©" types really ooze with that sort of insecurity. Don't get me wrong, I'm sure it truly did a number on them in your youth, especially back in the day. I don't discount that, however I do think at a certain point (especially those with greater means) you continue to victimize yourself by not letting yourself move past that.
I want my blerd men to HEAL so bad! I noticed alot of them also fell a bit into the look maxing era where they started working out and making themselves a certain type of attractive, but still hold the same hate and disdain from their childhood. Working out and updating looks are fine but leaving out the mental work makes it useless. HEAL BROTHAS, PLEASE!
Tailism is really annoying and sometimes seems to creep up even on this site. Once again @frauddogg@lemmygrad.ml is right
What happened again?
Part of it is the goofyness on the site which is whatever. I'm used to the internet bringing it out whatever. But honestly its seeing it in real life over and over again. How politicians back home pander to xenophobic and a ton of anti LGBT among other reactionary rhetoric that pops up. And considering the ruling party's sort of vanguard roots it really annoys me. And it has led nowhere good at all.
I noticed something with my immigrant friends, the ones who try to integrate into "American" culture tend to latch on to white pop culture. Like a lot of them talk to me about friends, Seinfeld, and all those white shows from the 90s. I assume these were the shows and stuff that exported internationally just as part of white culture being dominant so it's not really a fault to them, but I've had to explain a little too many times how I've never seen those shows and have no idea what they're referencing. I don't expect them to know Black culture nor be able to pick it up properly either but it's just been an interesting thing I've noticed, white supremacy goes far.
it kills me when leftists try to make things a popularity contest, real theater kid energy.
I'm so stressed right now it's unreal
The final test is coming next week, this will make or break me. If I pass I can move onto revenue service training and actually start serving the public. If I fail I slow the entire class down and risk getting terminated.
The ability to test air brakes, properly pre-trip inspect a bus, and actually drive it will demonstrate to the county, state, and fed that I can actually serve the public without being a liability.
Not only that but I'm banking on this one risky career change to be the last one and successful. I am running thin financially and I need to pass to become a real driver, actually help the community, and make a decent earning.
My family and friends are watching, the stakes are extremely high.
I'm trying not to sob
If you fail there must be a way to retake the test, correct?
Just so you know , I failed the check ride for my private pilots license, then for my instrument rating and finally, for my commercial license. There was one person, out of at least a thousand, who made it through all of the check rides on the first try. None of that meant that I was a bad pilot , there were people who flew right past me and bragged about it only to watch my career excel as theirs stagnated
Just do your best and if you fail, be extra prepared for the retake
I had a one on one with the instructor today. I get three chances. Though he warned me each chance gets me closer to termination
White westerners only recognize settler colonialism when they want to be racist towards immigrants and refugees of war, "So you're against white people coming into Africa and America and immigrating there but it's totally fine for Africans to immigrate to Europe and America?" and when you bring up the violence from settler colonialism they're like "oh so it's bad when settlers kill but okay when immigrants kill" like a smug gotcha moment.
God damn, can
Amerikkkans, KKKlanadians, Asstralians, and the like of settler-colonializers, get nakba'd back to Europe...They may not be the most evil fuckers, compared to their empire-building regime, but they're the most smuggest and ignorant shits
destroy America
I watch one video on that Johnny Somali guy and now Youtube keeps pushing me videos that sell a narrative about black expats being the problem Asian countries face. Conveniently ignoring the massive amount of white sexpats that have an affinity for girls under 18.
In other words: Youtube proves itself to be more YT supremacist, by the growing days
Western liberals either see POC either as a playdoll that agrees to everything with them, or just evil. Cubans are the first type Chinese people are the second type.
Funny how Cubans and Chinese either become victims of their circumstance or willing participants based on how acutely threatened westerners are.
Chinese immigrants in US who say "CccccPee is evil no food took away egg monopoly" gets whitey to reply "Wow what an evil regime I'm sure this person is a total expert on their home country and knows everything there is."
Chinese immigrants in US or China who say "Actually things aren't bad in China. I'm only outside the country to study a subject our universities don't have programs for or have a job traveling," gets whitey to bust out the calipers "Wow you're completely brainwashed and I'm going to compare you to hive insects while dismissing everything you say."
This is the end result of them chugging their own ideology of "brainwashing", innit...
Started a job in a plant nursery today and everyone speaks and only speaks spanish, my own spanish pretty good I think but it's only gonna get better by leaps and bounds as I talk en espanol to people other than my parents. On the real tho the job is pretty good, mostly working with older women and they are kind to me. Whenever I get the chance to do some heavy lifting for them I will, they been teaching me how to work as effectively as possible so I don't get too tired.
Started a job in a plant nursery today and everyone speaks and only speaks spanish, my own spanish pretty good I think but it's only gonna get better by leaps and bounds as I talk en espanol to people other than my parents.
Suerte to both your job and language abilities
Both are good it's just I've grown complacent speaking spanish to only parents, they get me but in a job you gotta learn good in order to work properly with others, also I gotta learn to work good with other and I like to think I am. If I ever advance it'll be 100% be because all of the women who took the time time help me there and I'll never forget
That's awesome . I would love an opportunity to practice Spanish. All of the classroom learning I did actually helped a lot after I went to Mexico and got immersed but it sure is easy to lose all that progress very quickly
Sort of a prerequisite at the job I'm at, never realized how much I don't know until now but I'm getting there. Communicating directly with people is the best way to polish and master I feel
Wish I had the monies for a half decent bass, or even a kind of shit one. Gave my old/only one to a friend who turned out to be garbage and they still have it
hope you get better 🫂
IM SO HOT, IM SO CUTE, IM SO SEXYYYY (sure a lil chubby
) BUT GOD IM SO PRETTY, I LOVE MY LIPS, AND HAIR AND HOW BIG MY NOSE IS100% agree
They spittin' str8 fax
Actions speak louder than words, but words speak a lot louder than thoughts.
i keep thinking about a comment I saw on one post, I think it was about the poster feeling angry a lot, one of the comments was suggesting getting a skill to be useful, I don't know why my mind keeps playing to that comment for some reason.
Finally found out that the evaluation for autism is now the 6th of December, no waiting till next year.
to the people who mostly hang in the megathreads, why?
I like the news mega the most because it helps me understand the world a bit better, there's a lot of informative posts... but the world also sucks so I often start there, end up getting angry and upset at the news, and log off before I can interact with the rest of the site.
There's 1,000-something comments in each one and I dunno how you keep track of anything like that. Not to mention, shit posting and reading shitposts already makes me feel a bit guilty since that time could have been spent reading theory.
My face just turns into:
o___o
....when I see the megas.
I guess it just feels a bit like a chronological xitter feed, but way better. And it's comfy to hang out in them and chat to people. I guess it's more for downtime, if I was in reading theory mode I might be on news mega, but probably not on hb at all haha. I do venture outside the megas too, but they're the first thing I usually check
Its easy when you are the one that posts them
I got into the habit of kind of journaling in the general mega as a way to just share some of my thoughts and feelings on the things going on in my life. And over time there's a few other frequent posters who's posts I've been reading for a while.
And as others have mentioned, the news mega is a good place to get news (lol) because all the other places I have access to news are mostly shit, whether they be mainstream or independent.
cant stop vomiting today
Oh nooo 😣
Sleep well, Comp
Does anyone know why @Angel@hexbear.net is no longer a moderator?
The more I think of white people, especially those bourgeois spokesperson of the professional managerial class or small-to-medium settler-propetarian ranks, the more I think "yeah, maybe Pol Pot had a bit of an idea, when seperating the base people from the new people"
I've noticed that zionists something call Algeria an Apartheid state, I didn't know why because they kept saying its name randomly from time to time to deflect apartheid accusations on the zionist entity, apparently it's because they think being a Muslim to gain Algerian citizenship????????????????????? That's not even remotely true
Pot calling the kettle black...
These same zionshits turn on a dime to support Apartheid South Africa and Rhodesia... goddamn them, they should be
I used to be apart of a subreddit on
, it seemed ''progressive'', users said they supported Palestine but then there was a post about voting for HariSS, I left reddit for good after that. F*cking clowns.Dreadlocks getting washed 2nite
Impressed with how well my journey has been with growing freeforms
Takes a lot of patience but very little effort
im gonna make a plan to get my hair done soon! everyone hold me too it! executive dysfunction sucks
I hate that I misread "executive"
Being a vegan of color has made white people even more untrustworthy in my eyes.
White carnist "leftists" are often on some white savior shit where they try to paint veganism as reactionary, racist, and colonialist, and when a non-white vegan disagrees with them, they show their true colors.
I have had some horrid mask-off moments with white carnists who do this.
How does everyone deal with skepticism of science based healthcare? Not sure if that's the right phrase, but its the only way I can think of describing it. My mom was just talking to me about a naturalist doctor claiming that there was an assassination attempt against them and honestly I don't even know where to start.
I get where some of the skepticism comes from considering the long history of white society using POC as their guinea pigs for medical advancements. And the fact that in the West, especially in the US, healthcare is more about profit than it is about actually helping people doesn't help. At the same time I feel like people take the skepticism too far and no matter what I've tried to say in the past about individual healthcare providers not being the problem, but rather the system that encourages profit over health people still fall back on their skepticism.
There was like a survey done that found a find number of nurses and doctors that believed that black people have higher pain tolerance than white people
I remember that or a similar study.
Shit sucks because it feels like there's no in between. Just full on dehumanization on one end and dangerous misinformation in the other. Like I myself have some of that skeptcisim, especially when it come to mental health, but its grounded in history and studies such as the one that you mentioned.
my friends all think im crazy for being afraid of doctors. hate alternative medicine more tho
Most of my family is the opposite. Big on natural and alternative medicine. Nothing wrong with that, but the way they completely disregard everything else is a bit bothersome.
I'm most comfortable talking to my mom about it, but when I talk about all the systemic issues around healthcare she just goes back to blaming individuals and talking the type of shit that I hear from right wingers. But IDK... Maybe I shouldn't let it bother me as much as it does.
Revisiting the Libyan NATO invasion every once in a while to compare it to current geopolitical situations, crazy how the Arab league sanctioned the Jamahariya in such a short time, but then still having trades with the zionist entity. And like it was all for non valid reasons.
crazy how the Arab league sanctioned the Jamahariya in such a short time, but then still having trades with the zionist entity.
Did they have a referendum on the sanctions, and which country voted for which? I'm guessing the Khaleej kkkompradors had something to do with it (i.e. Kuwait, Bahrain, Oman, UAE, Saudi Arabia)
I found a YouTube link in your comment. Here are links to the same video on alternative frontends that protect your privacy: