lemmy.world libs being insufferable
lemmy.world libs being insufferable
lemmy.world libs being insufferable
to lift all military restrictions
What restrictions? WHAT RESTRICTIONS?
The entity has been getting everything they want from the U.S. for years decades
So it's pretty galling but Eisenhower, Reagan (!!), Nixon (!!), and George HW Bush all pushed back against Israel in their own ways, much more than this current era of US presidents. I'd have to check the intervening Clinton era etc. but I'm pretty sure that the last time a US president decided to say no to Israel in any significant way was by George HW Bush. I guess that Mossad/Epstein kompromat dirt from running honeypots really works wonders to advance the interests of Israel (looking at you Clinton).
Y'know what's weird though? Seems like, at least historically speaking, Republican presidents were the ones who were willing to push back on Israel. It seems my non-voter/3rd voter position was wrong, those commenters are right. It's a two-party system. Given that Biden-Harris failed to even attempt to push back on Israel in any meaningful way, it seems like I should have been advocating for a Republican vote.
This is a position that is entirely consistent with their own internal logic btw. Blue MAGA cannot help but keep producing strategic Ls. They're gonna murder their own party's chances of ever getting reelected if they keep at it with their commitment to Pyrrhic victories.
The last president to threaten to withhold military aid was George H. W. Bush. He didn't--because Israel gave in to demands for a bit.
Apparently there's some 2,000 pound bombs they didn't give to Israel? It's pointless they gave them so many other bombs it makes up for it.
EDIT: Wait, it looks like the Biden administration sent them thousands of 2, 000 pound bombs and only paused one shipment of them? Wow, so brave. It's even worse than I thought lol.
Eli Valley seeing the future once again
EDIT:
Oh yeah because there were restrictions before right?
They didn't send 2000 lb bombs to be dropped on civilians and aid workers, they just sent thousands of 500 lb bombs instead
narrator: they did, in fact, send 2000 lb bombs
Biden gave "restrictions" which Pissraelis ignored and then the US continued to support them unconditionally. These liberals literally only care about words, that's why they hate Donald Trump. He says mean things and makes the US look bad. They want the US to look good. They have no material understanding of the world, only ideological.
Every time I question if Hexbear is too quick to attack over ideological purity testing, I get on my Lemmy.ml account and look at their feed. Not having standards or a street trial culture is so much worse. Why would anyone want to spend time on a website where their feed is a bunch of demons calling for a holocaust? The person offering houseplant advice in one thread wants to mass murder children in another thread. You're expected to seriously engage with someone saying something so antisocial that they would be beaten to death if they said it in a bar, and if you dare offend them then you're a dirty rulebreaker.
If you don't have
I self crit myself pretty often about being too hostile and aggressive when it comes to interacting with libs
Then I go interact with libs and I wish I could set them on fire
-Feel bad about maybe being too mean to liberals
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-Feel bad about maybe being too mean to liberals
The person offering houseplant advice in one thread wants to mass murder children in another thread.
When we did the pronoun purges, we lost the most active person in our gardening community and gardening was dead for a while. Thought this was pretty on the nose lol
Fucking Russians
How dare they not vote for genocide in the US!?
Russians once again being demonized for their boundless empathy and humanity.
My favourite version of this is when the libs got smug about Israeli ministers calling the West Bank part of Judea and Samaria and for further settlements there. Apparently they would never dare say that if Kamala got elected even though they did that weekly and we had Bill Clinton going up and saying that Judea and Samaria are ancestral Jewish land and justifying killing Palestinian civilians on her fucking campaign.
Desperate for the first opportunity to wash their hands of the genocide they support. Desperate to believe that hypothetical Trump would be somehow worse than the real desolation they voted for and lost. Now they want to skin the anti-war left they spent a year condescending to and gaslighting, now they want to wear our faces and be praised for their conscientiousness. There is no creature in all the mud and shit on Earth so loathsome as these smug, callous fairweather nazis.
I have no doubt that they'll try to put the mask on again at some point in the future when it suits them for 5 seconds. When that happens, they'll talk down to everyone else for not being fooled
giving putin a free pass at ukraine will be after lunch, then?
Listen North American fucking dumbasses, go fuck back off to your suburban hellhole and stop fucking meddling shit on other continents, for FAHKS SAKE Keep eating your McD and Tim Hortons (including the Canadian satrapy here) and stop trying to be the world police, especially with the moral grandstanding, SINCE YOU LITERALLY ARE FUNDING A GENOCIDE RIGHT NOW
(not gonna register to lemmy world for this)
This is a prime example of why this comm can't be replaced with c/counterpropaganda, these cryptofascists don't deserve a serious answer, they deserve to be ridiculed and reminded that they have been supporting everything that is happening in Gaza from the beginning and still do. They don't give a shit about Palestinians, if they did they would know that there were never any "military restrictions" in place, unless by military restrictions you mean Israel not dropping actual nukes.
The only way military restrictions will be put in place is if there is a "humanitarian intervention" into Israel.
A thing to notice is that none of them are even pretending that they were holding their nose to vote despite the genocide. There was zero conflict in their hearts.
I think Kamala Harris would be an objectively great president (1000 upvotes)
Kamala Harris is a "former prosecutor with a spotless record" (1200 upvotes)
Oh shit, the leftists are here, everyone, fall back!
Ahem. Of course we agree with your criticisms of Kamala, she's a deeply flawed candidate, but we're just holding our nose and voting for her only because Trump is so bad.
OK, I think they're gone now, everybody relax, we can come back out and go back to talking about how wonderful she is.
Kamala Harris is like Princess Leia and blaming her for Gaza is analogous to blaming Leia for Alderaan (1100 upvotes)
For this analogy to be even remotely accurate, Israel would have had to have shot down Air Force One and taken Kamala hostage. Even then it doesn't work because she's not Palestinian. Far closer to say Rashida Tlaib, or even Yahya Sinwar.
Biden is in office for two more months and could order a complete halt right now with no consequences, the election is over, they can stop "pretending" to cater to the right wing for votes.
What are they mad about here? Trump is just carrying out the Biden/Harris policy by ensuring Israel can defend itself from Palestinian hospitals and children.
.world libs can't wait to see us in camps
Libs once we overpower the guards, steal their weapons and begin liberating the camps!:
Nooo, there was a vote! There was a vote!
"breaking out of the camps? how can you be so uncivil??"
They're all genocide supporters
Wow that does sound pretty bad. Luckily our beloved Democrats still have months to stop the genocide and negotiate peace in the region by threatening to withdraw support. I'm sure they will do it any day now.
The average person in that thread doesn't care about Palestinian lives, they care about their chud uncle getting to gloat instead of them and having an "embarassing" president again.
Every single one of these ghouls believes that the Democratic Party is blameless, and that all the blame belongs to individual voters.
They are punching down, they are authoritarians, they are anti-demicratic, they have secretly hated the masses all along.
wow so day 1 trump will just continue to do what the biden administration did except they're just not going to pretend to pay lip service to those of us with a conscience who are against the genocide? how terrible! we truly messed up! now we're getting the exact same material result except we're not being lied to about it anymore.
This shrinking coalition of message boards with fewer posters than my high school had students is a high-value strategic target for the Russian government.
“Fucking Russians”
It’s 2024 they’re still blaming Russia rather than the inherent contradictions within their beloved economic system and nation.
Legit just pretending the last year didn't even happen I guess. If the democrats won they legit wouldn't give a shit about the ongoing slaughter, suddenly pretending to care is fucking hilarious. "They had a chance under Harris" no they fucking didn't
They have exactly one chance to survive, and it's the one thing liberals all agree is forbidden to brown people
I just don't understand how they think attempting to influence someone works. The gamble was that withholding the vote would make them change messages so that we would vote for them then they would win. Instead they decided to stay the course and lost. So it seems that maybe the uncommitted people were actually trying to play politics and the ones who are mad at them should have worked to end the genocide if they wanted to win. It isn't that it is worse now than before, its exactly the same.
THat's crazy, luckily biden is president now and he will just stop it all, right?
why don't these people just go back to reddit? this is indistinguishable from an r/worldnews or r/politics comment section
It's exactly the same thing. I guess it helps lend credence that perhaps those sections aren't entirely bots/feds.
I think they want to help the Fediverse grow or something. Reddit still has the little niche communities that won't be easily migrated, so the Fediverse is either us or the r/all posters
I mean there are a lot of alt accounts and upvote bots on here, there is nothing to stop it. It's clear the admins of World believe they are being subjected to a paid foreign disinformation campaign. Do you think Reddiquette is going to stop the personalities that become mods on the site from doing anything if they want to?
Sorry, did they say "60 day ceasefire until Trump takes office"? That's literally more than Biden could deliver, so they're kind of failing to make the greater evil claim here.
Military restrictions? You mean he's going to end the policy of pretending America's got red lines?
Every single one of these fucking people should get their teeth pried out with a fucking knife
Do you think there is a chance they'll realise that Kamala Harris is still vice-president, and that she's still currently financing the genocide?
They think she both has no control and can't go against Biden
But they think she would have stopped the genocide next year? Despite continuously saying that she won't? They are ridiculous.
It's funny how they never blame the Dems for being unelectable and losing people's trust through broken promises.
If Kamala wanted to win, she could have said she'd end the genocide. Skill issue on her part.
ctrl+f "fuck around and find out"
ctrl+x but in real life
Would be happy to answer on .world but hey you banned everyone so...
Noooo don't you see this is different from what Joey Biden did because Trump isn't smart enough to lie about it so now I can't ignore it and pretend that "pledging to stop the genocide gives more weapons and money" means something nooooo this is actually totally different and also Harris promising to do it more than Biden somehow means she wouldn't have done the same somehow nooooo
How is Trump worse? Bombed into oblivion times 2?