lmao I'm a tankie apparently fuck guys I have to turn in my anarchist badge because this dipshit said so.

https://hexbear.net/comment/3772604

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Congratulations comrade, you may now proceed with your Lemmygrad appliaction. We are looking forward to your posts.
- I mean I kind of am since I am helping build a new party centered on decolonial Marxism but I don't think that is what they are talking about
  
  are you the person running that account? if so god speed to your mental health comrade those patsocs are vile
  
  Welcome!
  
  The synthesis:
  
  If you are from 1973 then holy based :07:
  It's hard to imagine anyone this cool whose my father's age, all of them suck.
  
  @ChunkaLuta1973
  Account suspended
  Twitter suspends accounts which violate the Twitter Rules
  Seems Twitter is against decolonial Marxism

I still flip flop between ML and anarchism to be honest. I'm ML because of climate change time constraints but anarchist in heart.
Really what I care about is improving things. And I will use whatever toolbox seems to be the best option under the conditions in order to achieve that.
- the centrist leftist take
  Am I an ML? An anarchist? Who cares, I just wanna grill (the rich)
  
  you've just birthed a new tagline
  @CARCOSA@hexbear.net
  
  You joke but I genuinely feel like this most days. If anything is getting done we're gonna need to team up anyways.
- A friend of mine always says "I'm an ML now so I can be an anarchist one day in the future"
  
  that's a good one
- I have been converted to third worldism by all the contradictions. Something global historical materialism something super exploitation.
  
  I think third worldism is about to be ripped apart by climate change. We're going to see a very very rapid destabilisation occur from climate refugee movements numbering in the tens of millions. It took just thousands of Syrian refugees to provoke huge EU destabilisation that led to Brexit, Greece, Italy, far right movements, etc etc... What's going to happen when the numbers are in the millions is going to blow it out of the water.
  This rapid destabilisation is going to create a lot of revolutionary events.
- Yeah I would love for it to be possible for us to simply build our new world and show people a better way, but we are running out of time and more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary.
  
  "more authoritarian measures are going to be necessary."
  Welp, that's the gotcha for calling you 'tankie' according to these people.
  Use state measures, and they would treat you as oriental orc with no sense... get crushed by authoritarians and they will publicly worship you while secretly celebrating a progressive defeat towards reaction...
  Edit: I'm pro-Nakoichi, just to clarify...
- Marxism-Leninism is a really good politics for being right about everything. Being right about everything is no fun when you're losing.

"tankie" has become such a pavlovian response to these people that the second they hear it they've decided they no longer need to consider anything this person might have to say. Like conservatives the second they hear something is "woke" and they throw a tantrum
- It's kind of brilliant in a way. The brainworms prevent them from ever learning, because all it takes is a single concern troll saying "I think these people might be tankies" and they automatically shut down.

I haven't come across any Anarchist theory that explicitly forbids tanks...
- I mean we kind of invented them with the tachanka
  
  Tachankie
  
  sorry fam the czech hussite protosocialists under jan zizka have that honor
  though the quakers were pretty inspired by certain sects of hussites, so proxy of a proxy at least
  
  Ukrainian anarchist leader Nestor Makhno pioneered the use of the tachanka en masse during the Russian Civil War.
  When Ukraine was cool...

Fediverse libs only know to say "Tankie!" and cry.
- That's not true. Every once in a while they can be seen eating hot chip too.

i gotta say i literally do not give a fuck if an ML state or anarchism happens first or whatever. I JUST WANT THIS HELL TO BE OVER
- Funny you should say https://twitter.com/RefuseRaccoon/status/1488653392389890049
  That's basically the stance I put forth in my pinned twitter thread lol

tankie just means "anyone to the left of me", exhibit #10392

classic mistake. u see, tankie-ism is when you criticize people who love genocide. hope that helps!
- It's just really funny when like, look at my pfp lol
  
  tbf i think these people think anarchists are tankies
  they dont have a concept of what the word actually means

tankie has been rhetorically whittled down from its original 1950s CPGB infighting meaning to just a worthless slander against any and all anti-imperialists, regardless of political tendency.
- "Tankie" is when the anti-imperialist does stuff, and it's more tankie the more stuff it does, and if it does a real lot of stuff, it's redfash.
- I once saw someone call an anarchist Mastodon instance tankie because someone said something about killing all billionaires
  
  I once described to a liberal friend a dream I had about commandeering a tank, spray-painting the name "Autistic Saudade" on the side, and using it to disperse a neo-nazi rally meant to intimidate refugees and immigrants from "undesirable" countries. My friend said that I "went full tankie on them" and expressed that he was "glad that [I] wasn't a tankie".
  ...What the hell's that supposed to mean‽ That I'm just supposed to let neo-nazis intimidate refugees without consequence‽

That user's instance defederated with us.
Not because of your exchange but because they thought these posts were serious
- I'm sorry what's wrong with those screenshots? I see not a single problem in any one of those screens????????? Jokes about Blahaj, the IMF and some other stuff, staying inside Hexbear, is not a reason to defederate at all. Weird.
  People having a good time joking among themselves on Hexbear is not disruptive behaviour. It's not trolling, it's not disruptive, it's not harassment or abuse. Are there tankies here? Damn right there are. There are also anarchists, democratic socialists and there's probably a socdem hiding somewhere that hasn't yet been bullied too much for being a lib. This is just anticommunism. "Tankie instance" is just "they allow communists". It's incredible colony-brained shit, these people need to decolonise their minds.
  
  One of the screenshots is literally just someone explaining how our custom emojis work lmao wtf
  
  And even a trot!
  (Hi, it me. I'm new here!)
- these fuckers just can't stop lying. how is it possible that so many people keep repeating that we mass-downvote posts when we literally disabled downvotes years before federating
  https://pawb.social/comment/1836076
  
  Oh damn, look at all those purity tests. The liberals deem us "not left enough."
  because being leftist is all about waving a rainbow flag during pride month but never actually doing anything to improve the material conditions of our LGBTQ+ comrades. That would be too authoritarian apparently.
  
  And we upvote people from our own instance 😱 the horror.
- I'm doing my part!
  How did they not recognize the Grover Iraq pasta. Netizens these days have no appreciation of history.
- pawb.social just stated that they're “the Furry Community's hub on Lemmy.” Will someone from their depleted and neoliberal instance please inform them that we too have a Furry Community, but it is a much bigger & more powerful one than theirs, and our Furries can shitpost!
  
  All power to !furry@hexbear.net
  
  i mean its not bigger right, 650 subs vs 1k users on pawb
- Sorry I got us further defederated. I thought that if I was more pro-American, it would appease these anti-tankies.
- Idk why furries feel so strongly about communism. Shouldn't they be arguing about furry stuff.
- they thought these posts were serious
  No way
- wait did they seriously cite me making a /c/traa community as a reason to defederate? lmaoooo fuck off transphobes
  
  I'm assuming that screenshot is about the tagline.
- They're seriously claiming they defederated with us because they thought "Operation IKEA Freedom" was serious.
- Fuckin' lmao they screencapped one of my comments explaining how emojis work as evidence that we're tankies