On Blahaj and 196

so am i missing something or are the blahaj zone admins just letting that c/196 moderator go clout-drunk with power & fuck the vibes of their whole site lmao

I hope that this issue will be resolved in the future by the admins of blahaj.zone, they should cut that threat to their own userbase loose ASAP and instead work on actively onboarding trans subreddits instead of that place infested with chaser pests. I would love to see a bigger, unified queer community on lemmy and it hurts me that you had to make this decision, but at the same time i fully, 100% agree that with c/196 around, we couldn't maintain the safe space that this site has been since briefly after its inception when we purged the r/stupidpol crowd to make this more inclusive to our already large queer userbase. There's a lot of people who've helped me throughout my transition, but that list wouldn't be complete without those of you who made this the place where i could first talk about my gender exploration and experiment with my pronouns. We all owe it to our community to place safety before the desire to dunk on some of the most insufferable libs in the entire fediverse.

Incredibly based. Civility is a two way street, and I didn't like how we were bowing and scraping to get them to do us the favor of remaining federated. Hopefully some of their cooler users will migrate over

I also wish their Anarcho-Bidenist mod/admin team a very

A preëmptive strike by chapo.chat... I did not expect this.

From the blahaj 196 list of bannable things:

-saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad account

That was edited to

-saying anything remotely iffy with a lemmygrad or hexbear account

As soon as I seen the !anti_cishet_aktion@hexbear.net thread, blahaj had to go. Like every comrade in that thread was offended.

no more half measures walter

watch us defederate you, tankies!!

well then

For all the work you folks were doing to try to make federation with blahaj.zone work, it sucks to see a clique of vaushites piss all over it. It'd be nice if blahaj.zone could clean this up. Most of the folks seemed reasonable, but this shit is intolerable.

Probably the best outcome, honestly. We were bending over backwards for them and their response was to smear shit in our faces. Hopefully we'll pick up the cool people and the v*ushite chaser scum can wank themselves silly with trans porn or whatever they consider "being a good ally" means.

To the poor trans-comrades who are stuck there, you don't need to do this "pick me" bs, just drop the toxic assholes. You're worth that

Fair.

I hope that the Blahaj admins hold queer people as more important than this behaviour and take action, so that we can federate again, I actually like some of their content. I think they will, if their previous statements are anything to go by, but we will see from this what their real priorities are.

If I were adminning Blahaj I would purge the problematic 196 mod and replace them, as well as adding several significantly better mods to that team. This isn't complicated to resolve without losing the users, the mandate for removing a problematic mod like this is going to be very high. Exert some authority.

Thanks for bearing with us

Looking at blahaj.zone's statistics, without c/196 there basically is no blahaj.zone:

Their top 15 instances by users:

If they got rid of c/196, or lost users due to revolt from removing the mod, there would basically be no blahaj zone lemmy. I think we can treat them as synonymous moving forward.

The fact they still havent banned that user that questioned the validity of every trans user on this site is sickening

Before I found hexbear, you could not have convinced me that I would actually LIKE the moderators of an online community. Now I see that it's possible!

That instance has so far been the only time I thought everyone was doing an elaborate roleplay. Like there are people there openly identifying as feds? And despite calling themselves leftists, they're also openly reactionary?

I've been exposed to mocking self-hatred among queer people, but this seemed much different. Just gross.

I've actually enjoyed federation and it's cool seeing new people but blahaj.zone seems to have moderation actively hostile to us

Ada's response is just...

Edit: The ableist mod is still a mod of 196. Nice one, protecting racist people.

WE LOVE OUR TRANS COMRADES

The amount of reactionary content from the anti-tankie crowd is out of control on that instance. That's beyond a meaningless term and they have to be aware of it at this point. There's no one more openly authoritarian about the most heinous shit than these anti-tankie fascists.

thank you for listening to us and thank you all so much for your hard work on all this. I know it hasn't been easy but we appreciate you.

it sucks that it's come to this and I wish a better alternative were possible.

Looks like they're also setting up a traa comm, as a comfy place for our power posting allies who might migrate over. Great moves.

Calling it now “196 Mod Update: Asking again, please no Nazi shit” in 3 months

I liked some of the gay memes but seeing them defend slurs and shit is insane. Good fucking riddance. I don't regret my vote to federate (yet) but maybe we should pause and hold votes community by community, have people maybe scout the place out and get the feel first. As far as federation goes, lemmy.ml is plenty, though I also enjoy that programming one and a couple of the other smaller instances. We don't need to rush.

I do feel for admins and users of hexbear. The dunking on a genuine DM was just petty, and removing comments pointing out the pettiness is just sad.

That said, I hope their heads cool down and we all can be friends. If they think we're bad and authoritarian, wait till they see what the right wing has in store over the next decades.

I hear from very reliable intelligence sources that all the "users" you see asking for de-federation over there are actually sock puppets. Apparently the mods fear losing their status in the fediverse so they have constructed this propaganda campaign to stay in power. Most real users want to federate with us and want to come here. Any users expressing such thoughts are quickly banned and treated harshly. It seems there is much unrest within that instance.

Intersectionality matters folks and apparently only our mods know it.

the revisionism has already begun

Best mod team on lemmy

This middle school drama is exactly what I was expecting from federation and by God do I love watching it. Social media sure is hell.

But like seriously though it's not surprising 196 would be so friendly to chaser rhetoric considering that a lot of the sub is effectively just that.

196 is a garbage radlib subreddit anyway and the only charitable defense of it is that it's full of actual children whose unformed brains can't be fully responsible for how fucking stupid their opinions are

We love our trans comrades folks

Blahajzone x Hexbear enemies to friends to enemies angst fanfic one shot when

Hexmods best mods, everybody is saying it.

:07:

Trust the plan

This is honestly a very good move. I've seen too many blahaj (sus) users attacking hexbear on the basis that "we aren't really queer" "we pretend to indoctrinate" yada yada. Being proactive on the hateful bullshit left running rampant in their instance reverses the situation entirely, and could very well encourage the many good users of blahaj to either 1) demand internal change 2) come here. Their 196 community is absolute cancer.

Win win tbh

Edit: what I find absolutely WILD is that some of their most sus users are going around in the blahaj thread on hexbear made a couple days ago saying we "do not have queer solidarity" and are unsafe, which is like, so laughable when your instance harbors fascists.

It sucks that we have to do this, but we can't throw away the culture of safety that many people here feel in order to appease some reactionaries from another instance. Thanks for dealing with all this

Yep the instance with a slur filter is filled with slurs apparently

The posts in question have been restored and the mod in question spoken to about ableist language.

Have I not been clear??

Good riddance. 196 became a pit years ago. No quarter given to the chasers, ableists, and scratched libs who blew in under the wings of

Can't say I'm too surprised about this. That instance was one of the first ones I landed on since it was explicitly branding itself as trans friendly. It was ok at first then took a sudden nosedive right around the time 196 blew up and an original mod from the

Uncritical support for our mod team protecting our queer comrades against reactionary scum.

Their loser admins: Let's wait one week for some sham poll even though everyone here already wants to defed from Hexbear so we duck responsibility about pulling the plug

Our beautiful admins: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_wAAp_5JZfI

Y'all r so based love u

I have no idea what’s going on, but fwiw I will say this is maybe the only Internet forum I’ve been on that HASN’T had drama involving mods stepping over the line and abusing their power, so I absolutely trust and support the admins here on this decision.

I haven't been using hexbear much in the past few days because I saw something like this happening and didn't want to have to personally put up with this for a month before we get defeded anyway. I never expected they would fuck around so quickly to the point we would defed from them first. Its a

Thanks to Ada and Carcosa especially for trying to come to an understanding.

Edit: woah, ada's a cowardly two faced piece of shit.

Thank you admins and mods for once again confirming that I chose the correct instance.

i am eating slop from the trough today. thank you mods and admins

Oh they mad mad