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So Lemmy.ca Has Also Defederated Hexbear

lemmy.ca Deferated from hexbear.net - Lemmy.ca

Sorry (🍁) we did this without making a post, but after receiving several complaints we defederated from hexbear.net [http://hexbear.net] yesterday. Here’s a few quick examples of poor conduct by hexbear users: - Spamming bullshit links to the pig poop picture: https://lemmy.cas/u/AccountVerificatio...

Looks like we upset a few too many

residents over at lemmy.ca. I didn't see a post about this on here, so I thought I'd go ahead and make one.

2 of 4 reasons why are basically just PPB lol, and a third is for calling for executions of landlords

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TLDR: if you want to know if an instance will defed hexbear, check its instance block list for lemmygrad.
been making stray comments here and there about this, I'm telling y'all if an instance defeds lemmygrad it is 1000% going to defed hexbear, we're calmer and more solitary than y'all, so all the accusations of trolling or brigading or just generally being "ebil tankies" against the grad can and will be used against hexbear too. I fully expect .world to defed lemmygrad in the next couple months too once they're finally got their shit under control. Is what it is, hopefully normal users still manage to find us and switch to instances that aren't ran by anticommunists.
- This. I was surprised to find that they were even federated with hexbear. Lemmy.ca was on my shortlist of instances to join when I was moving to Lemmy. Blocking lemmygrad was reason enough to find a different instance.
- I feel like we sometimes overstate the we are calmer/polite/respectful part. There was a hexbear user telling another hexbear user that our emojis in federated communities were a little disruptive (because they are really big) and they apologized, but another user replied to them with a ppb lol
  
  another user replied to them with a ppb lol
  
  They're from lemmygrad and saying that lemmygrad is the calmer one, from my reading. Also, lemmygrad added pronouns? Based
  
  I meant lemmygrad users are calmer than hexbear users lol
- I do see that lemmygrad is more aligned to some ML types, while hexbear is a bit wider, which does make for a difference. But it doesn't seem the strain of communism is the main problem for the de-federating people.
  However we have a more diverse set of opinions in our user base, since we don't ban people that quick (i.e. in terms of war in Russia we have some revolutionary defeatists, some anti imperialists who favour a weakening of the imperialist NATO (which really irks other instance admins, etc.).
  To moderate a sub sub sub comment of a main thread is a bit funny though.

When I saw that thread last night, I was expecting the links to the "offenses" to be wild. But then it was just bathroom humor, and a singular call to execute landlords, which I found hilarious.
I just do not understand the lack of humor of a lot of people, on these instances. You'd swear their lives are devoid of happiness.
- A lot of those are pretexts for defederating I think
  What rubs them the wrong way is our position on various issues (despite them being far more deeply argued and sourced than the paltry answers we usually get)
  Also, admittedly and to a lesser degree, likely the fact we're numerous and terminally online so anytime something dunkable is posted even the small subset of online hexbear users that see it appear on their feed and interact must look like an army to them
  
  Guilty. I will happily reply to every single comment in a thread without even really thinking about it. People think I'm stalking them and it's like "nah, I've just made twenty comments in every single post that was posted today, that's all".
- Guaranteed most of them have some interesting opinions on the indigenous people of Canada and how they ended up in their current situation.
  
  Most of them are starlight tourguides.
- Step 1: Execute landlords
  Step 2: Land doesn’t actually get properly distributed and a new landlord rises
  Step 3: ???
  Step 4: Profit?
  (Step 5: Revolution all over again)
  Edit: /s in case it’s not clear. sigh Poe’s Law sucks 🤦‍♂️
  Uhh excuse me I'm sorry what was step 2 again??
  
  The Maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry.

Calls China an Oppressive Regime
Based in country that swore fealty to a pedophile enabling racist royal family which leeches off the people of the UK and imprisons people standing against monarchy.
- The UK complaining about China is really rich given the way their courts work, their actual literal king and unelected house of parliament, ASBOs, and the UK being far and away the most exhaustively surveilled country in the world.
- Don't forget the pogroms and genocide against the Natives

Calling for exections of landlords

- they literally have 0 concept of the procession of history, and how the founding of your country less than 200 fucking years ago very much does matter to the present day???
  
  "Moralists don't really have beliefs. Sometimes they stumble on one, like on a child's toy left on the carpet. The toy must be put away immediately. And the child reprimanded. Centrism isn't change -- not even incremental change. It is control. Over yourself and the world. Exercise it. Look up at the sky, at the dark shapes of Coalition airships hanging there. Ask yourself: is there something sinister in moralism? And then answer: no. God is in his heaven. Everything is normal on Earth."
- There are so many treaty conflicts going on in Canada right now. O KKKlanada!
- Having grown up native in Canada, I assure you that this is the view held by the majority.
- It gets even better, look at that dudes profile: https://lemmy.ca/u/MapleEngineer
  @MapleEngineer
  25 years in the federal government in guns and badges, 22 of those in Corrections, then 10 years in hacker hunting and breach detection, now an information security sales engineer. Homestead farmer, amateur welder, equipment operator, electronic designer, 40 years soldering, husband and father.
  142 Posts 529 Comments, Joined: June 14th, 2023
  Also got a youtube channel
  With a fun quote:
  garbage cheap chinese breadboard for $1 I use as solder fixture
  my good breadboard is $10 it is much better.
  
  Holy shit
  
  Who the fuck is talking about breadboard quality. The whole point is that it's cheap and temporary. Also the "good breadboard" is 100% also Chinese. Plus he sucks at soldering, he uses too much solder so all the joints are balling up. It's supposed to be concave and shiny.

Lmao @ the "not all landlords are bad" comments.
- Not all landlords are bad, but all people under 30 can't afford to live in Canadian citys.
  
  It's almost as if landlordism requires participating in a system of exploitation no matter how "nice" the individual may be
- Idiots falling for that lazy argument still.
  Somewhat like cops, not every individual is an evil, Machiavellian monster harboring Hitlerian-esque notions of governance and law. However, their existence continues to perpetuate a (horrific) status quo, AND NOBODY IS BORN A COP OR LANDLORD.
  Don't like being called a parasitic bastard? Quit then fucker lmao

Well, federation was an interesting experiment. Lemmygrad and hexbear

Special shoutouts to @AccountVerificationBot@hexbear.net, @duderium@hexbear.net, @Sasuke@hexbear.net, @GaveUp@hexbear.net (and probably also @Frank@hexbear.net), and @GorbinOutOverHere@hexbear.net for being called out specifically.
- For the record I think I only posted pigpoopballs two or three times and stopped when people here on hexbear started complaining about it.
  Edit: all violence is bad except for structural violence that funds my treats. We have to help the mom-and-pop landlords fight the evil woke global elitist landlords. All revolutions inevitably destroy themselves which is why I am literally a peasant living on a manor and capitalism never happened (since it is human nature and if anything the nature of the universe (who is God except The Great Investor? What was the Big Bang except a massive and highly profitable investment?)), excuse me now while I have my eighth meltdown about China for the day.
  
  lol that just makes it even funnier
- You all went out bullying Canadians without me.
- Special shoutouts to . . . @Sasuke@hexbear.net
  hiii <3
- Lol i didn't even DO ANYTHING. I've been so polite compared to how rude I am usually
- true Heroes Of Socialist Labor
- It is an indictment of my posting that I wasn't mentioned there. Should have posted harder
  
  Self-crit, you love to see it
- Beep boop
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  Good bot.
- Sasuke is really cool
- I like how you just threw me in there. : )
  
  You were in there riffing on Kkklanada with GaveUp, so I figured you were being implicitly included there.
- Goddamn I need to step up my game
- my posting game is below par

Adding to the discussion = spending hours arguing with me over my basic misunderstanding of the world until I declare victory by citing The Economist and calling you a tankie
- And dragging on an argument one point at a time, completely disconnected from the pace of the thread, because I only have like 3 arguments that are all memorized slogans, and have to space them out for dramatic effect

I never bought into this whole "Canada" thing anyway
No fucking way that's a real country

Skill issue

I wish all instances would. They’re the most disingenuous and stupid users I’ve ever seen. They might as well just fling their own poop at people’s houses because that’s the level of value they’re bringing to the internet discourse.
They aren’t here to discuss anything in good faith, they’re here to brigade and harass. That’s all I’ve seen from them.
They are freaks of nature.
least dehumanizing canadians
- But the discourse!
- I love that they think our attempts to educate and our rage and contempt are both in bad faith. Like no, buddy, I am telling you exactly what I really think of you.

Hell yeah! O KKKlanada!
The Landlord thing is funny given how out of control the housing crisis is in CA. Like I know people who are having to flee their home city to try to find a place they can afford to live out in the sticks.
- The current governments response to the housing crisis has been "not our responsibility, it's up to the provinces" and I guess Lib Canadians who think they're super leftist want to support the Grits and JT despite how shitty they've been on the housing file for the last 10 years.

lemmy.ca? more like lemmy.caca
boom, gottem.

Hahaha, the bear spares no one! Not even itself for the sake of @Civility@hexbear.net!
Lmao, you will end up like Lemmygrad. The spectres of Lemmy are us!
- 😔
  
  This has been a tough week for you

Lol they won't be missed
- Unserious country
  
  Seriously genocidal country.
  
  agree, after world war II the UK pulled inwards and the concept of "british canada" i.e. the canadian outpost of the imperial civil service got demolished and the place became america with free healthcare.

Fuck 'em, but I do love throwing this back in the faces of all the twits who say we're an "echo chamber". We literally reach out to all these other perspectives and try to make community with them, and they wuss out. (or rather their losers mods / admins decide for the userbase that they shouldn't see what we're posting)

Spamming bullshit links to the pig poop picture

no more half measures walter

Of course liberals don't believe in the whole premise of lemmy. It is, after all, a socialist structure.

Isn't Canada that place with the blackface Prime Minister?
- Yes they also let the natives into the forest in the winter to be left to freez to death...
- No, that's what the lying media will try and tell you.
  Actually though, Justin Trudeau is our first black prime minister. He just does white face during public appearances to fool the Americans. Canada is actually a very progressive place and absolutely not racist at all.
- It gets worse:
  
  Stand on top of the prime minister while arguing with him
- Also currently engaged in a illegal inter-national war of aggression/invasion of unceded Indigenous land aka a sovereign nation.

Such cowardice. Shameful, really

shoutout to @rab in there for not being a liberal

Am I supposed to be sad about this?

😤

thank god, i dont have to deal with canadians anymore
- Canadian hexbear users:
  "I'm in danger"
  
  they already knew that, they live in canada
  
  Canadian Hexbear Threat Profile
  1.) Moose
  2.) the RCMP
  3.) Cirrhosis
  4.) MAID
  5.) bears
  6.) The RCMP again
  7.) Maple syrup depletion
  8.) Hexbear
- I'm still here binch.

Who?

I saw a thread in another instance the other day
Opened it, read it, and said they were suckers
They were talking about defederation or whatever
Picture me giving a damn, I said never

https://lemmy.ca/comment/2262736
Is worth a read, it is by a user slandering Hexbear, turns out:
@init@lemmy.ml
Haven’t we learned our lesson about unprovoked wars after watching East Europe for the past year and a half??
@emizeko - not sure if you’re a Russian troll or a poor American doing the real fascists’ work for them–but I’m sorry for you my friend and hope the best for you. If you missed it in my other comments, I’m currently serving in the US military and am very confident that Western media at large is on the money, and that a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted. Best wishes.
and
Oh I’m familiar with it. My entire family operates this way. It would be funny if it wasn’t so sad. I joined the military due to my parents fears about Russia and China invading or some shit. Now I’m the liberal because I’ve actually educated myself, and here they are defending the very things they were terrified of 25 years ago just to own the libs.
Followed by:
My mother was all into the satanic panic BS and Linin’s words about winning the next war via education and indoctrination of youth in our schools. Dad turned out, interestingly enough, to be closeted gay when they divorced because he was also an abusive sack of shit father.
Good that there was a divorce, but the setting of the phrases so close together is bad for online discourse.
The ironic part is that he is so indoctrinated from his small hometown upbringing that he still votes Republican-only and hides the fact his business partner and co-owner of his father’s ranch he inherited is also his boyfriend, or at this point, common law husband. He still hides it because the small community he lives in would probably not be very welcoming. The funny thing is that, at least before it was revealed he was hiding a boyfriend, he was hugely homophobic.
It took me literal years to deprogram, in no small part from reddit, traveling through the military, and seeing the hypocrisy of modern Christianity. It’s sad that so many will never question the values they grew up with and will turn into the next generation ignoramus.
- oooh I got a shoutout from a babykiller, neat
- I forgot that sopuli existed and was happier for it
- a novice OSINTer could refute the fanfic you posted.
  Cool I wonder if they paid attention when those OSINT guys proved that Ukraine committed the Bucha massacre
  
  🤫
- If you like this comment you might also like that comment:
  https://hexbear.net/comment/3733838

Reminder that
is basically just
lite, truly a 'left wing' Democrat's paradise.

canadians are gone, or as we know them in maoist-english kkklanadians
ask them about what happened to the natives and they'll show you how nice the settler scum truly is

lukewarm take: I don't give a fuck about lemmy and what they think, I'm uninterested in seeing what shitlibs have to say and have no interest in trying to convince them to not be shitlibs.

the maoist uprising against the landlords was the largest and most comprehensive proletarian revolution in history, and led to almost totally-equal redistribution of land among the peasantry

Less
means the world more goodier.

We should ban all canadian IPs as retribution
- We don't track IPs
  
  lemmy does track IPs for rate limiting. It just doesn't store them in the database

Someone post this link in there, please.
https://www.canada.ca/en/health-canada/services/health-services-benefits/medical-assistance-dying.html#a3
- Of course. Just raising awareness about programs ☝️

Aw, I thought I had a couple of ok interactions.

The absolute brain melt @astral_avocado@programming.dev in that post saying "not every landlord is exploiting 50 families, many of them are only exploiting one family!" If I assault just one person and not 50, does that make it okay? How fucking dumb do you have to be? How is it possible to be this stupid? Use your fucking brain for half a second, Jesus Christ
- You are completely unhinged
  
  Uh sir I think you'll find you've done an ad hominem
  
  Let me see... yes we are on home turf
  
  oppa gangnam style
- All about that brain game

ppb is like weedkiller for libs

Lol take off hosers

That instance is barren.
I'm too lazy to make the meme, but imagine if you will:
A circle of stick figures talking. Another stick figure with a Canadian flag as a head comes up and loudly announces "I'm defederating from Hexbear!"
One stick figure gives the Canadian stick figure a giant thumbs up, and resumes talking to the rest of the other stick figures in a circle.

Quelle esti d'idée de marde

Top Comment:
they behave like it’s 4chan or some shit discord server,
Second Comment:
Their post about our defederation is absolutely unhinged, I must say – top keks if you can handle reading it.
Every liberal accusation is an admission.
Bonus quote:
It is unlikely that anyone believes what they say, as why would you waste time talking about something you believe in?

Wow, thanks for the info! Gonna creaate account there right away!

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