Police raid Moscow gay bars after a Supreme Court ruling labeled LGBTQ+ movement 'extremist'

Given the general trend, at least in the West, of increasing numbers of non-religious people, it's kinda fascinatingly disturbing to see the opposite occurring. Really shows how these things are actually governed by measurable social and economic factors and can't be explained by mere vibes-based explanations like "Well, as society is becoming more rational and scientific..." One wonders if we'll see a resurgence in religiosity in the West as conditions deteriorate.

The 90s was such a horror show

If you ask me, the 90s in Russia were anything but хорошо

What the fuck. Don't get me wrong the Russian empire was awful about LGBT (no surprises there) until lenin came along and decriminalized it (but iirc there wasn't much if any proactive/institutional work to secure rights, it just wasn't a priority and I can't really blame them). Then came stalin and specifically fucked it up (many such cases).

and legislatively everything kept being fucked (despite the best efforts of civil society) right up to the fall of the Soviet Union. Even after the fall, we only decriminalized it to appease the capitalists when we joined the council of Europe in 1993.

So yeah in terms of rights, capitalism/the 90s was the best thing that happened to the Russian LGBT community in recent history. And even then there it wasn't applied retroactively, people who were previously sentenced stayed imprisoned. However culturally there was definitely a shift in perception. The peak was probably sending a couple (not really) lesbians to perform in Eurovision 2003 (to date iirc they're still the most popular Russian band among foreigners).

And going into the 2000s the government grew more and more allergic of civil society / activism of literally any kind including LGBT rights. That's when the whole 'foreign agent' thing started too. Until they just outlawed activism/'propaganda' in 2013. The only saving grace is the shitty patchwork enforcement. But if the government does decide to get on your case, you're fucked. Culturally however I don't think young people who use the internet are much more homophobic than on average in eastern europe (lol). The state sponsored TV watching boomers (who hold power in the government) are another story tho, it's as bad as fox news watchers in the west.

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what else would you expect it to be, the main pro war audience is the Russian equivalent of fox news boomers that get their politics from state sponsored television. It's a schizo mishmash of stalin worship (for the wrong reasons) and imperial/white guard ideology.

Yo did i discover this shit lately. A lot of socially reactionairy accounts calling themselves ML with Russia and China flags in their bios.

Idk but I know if the USSR was around today the material conditions for us queers would be far better in that part of the world.

He's a libertarian so don't feel too bad for him, still did good whistle blowing

Funny enough Putin’s press secretary did come out and clarify that the Kremlin doesn’t have anything to do with the Supreme Court decision.

By the way, how did East Germany turn into the reactionary hellhole it is today?

due to extreme loss of population

Lol, fuckin Lmao, even

So is there much to the idea that queer people not being criminalised is western propaganda?

Stalin did re-criminalize homosexuality after the Civil War due to extreme loss of population at the time.

I have seen no documents that support that claim. One can try and make the claim that in the lead-up and during the Great Patriotic War the Stalin administration recognized the great desperate state they were going to be in / were in, and understood there was a need to marshal all levels of Soviet society leading to the decision to end the prosecution of all religions to the point of encouraging state collaboration in order to further motivate the proletariat to fight against the fascist genocidal invaders, and one can cite the Imams of the many Stan countries who called the War against nazi Germany a jihad or the Orthodox patriarch who wrote

"We want to be Orthodox and at the same time recognize the Soviet Union as our civil motherland, whose joys and successes are our joys and successes and whose failures are our failures. Any blow directed at the Union, be it a war, a boycott, some kind of social disaster, or just a murder from around the corner, like the Warsaw one, is recognized by us as a blow directed at us."

While there are no documents as far as I'm aware declare the softening towards religion and implementation of policies favored by the social conservatives that make up the religious factions as a means of strengthening the Soviet Union to fight harder during the Great Patriotic War exists, I would say that this period of history is one where you could draw correlations to causations as the most likely reason it occured.

Stalin did re-criminalize homosexuality after the Civil War due to extreme loss of population at the time.

I imagine this was the motivation behind the dumb abortion ban as well yeah?

From what I've heard, US conservative groups like Focus on the Famiy were doing a lot of fucking around in the area leading up to dissolution and into the '90s. Any truth to that?

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Since the fall of the Soviet Union Russia has only grown more reactionary with time

That's weird, I wonder what was keeping all the reactionaries out of power