Probably the easiest boycott you could do, let's do it Lemmy!

Ah, typical lemmy.ml . They have a hard time understanding that you can support a certain ideology without necessarily turning a blind eye to everything that people claim to be doing for the sake of said ideology, or that any criticism against their actions is automatically false.

I remember you, by the way. You were already an old Lemmy user when I joined in, 3y ago!

I dared to say that the illegal, violent invasion of the foreign nation of Ukraine was bad. Turns out NATO made them do that, as well as rape and torture all those people and steal the children. Who knew... 🤷‍♂️

The irony of so-called Marxist-Leninists refusing to be self-critical...

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Criticism_and_self-criticism_(Marxism%E2%80%93Leninism)

We could argue that the root cause is that .ml admins pretending that their instance's target audience is wider than it actually is.

It’s a great advertisement for communism that’s for sure. They haven’t even gotten real power and it already resembles the worst of what communism offers. They’re a bunch of wannabe Ceausescu’s.

Or even if they had an instance-wide rule saying "don't criticise Russia or China here". It's fine as long as the rules are clear.

But no, instead they libel the users criticising either, claiming that they violated rule #1 (TL;DR "no bigots"). Even when the criticism is clearly against the government.

And then you get a bunch of 11yos eating that ban message for breakfast, because they're full of gullibleness and don't get the purpose of this utterance dumb fucks.

I'm avoiding linking lemmy.world instances. We shouldn't put even more eggs in that basket, you know.

Is femcel memes ironic?

I've added all of them to the list, thanks!

Regarding !news@beehaw.org, now there's an alternative there.

Added to the list - thanks!

That's weird - are you accessing lemmy through a browser, or some app?

Check if it works here: !funny@sh.itjust.works

If it does then it's the table interacting weirdly with the links, I can fix it by removing the table.

will remove comments for "misinformation"

As they should

even if you're citing academic works.

I've seen the "academic works" y'all cite, blog posts, YT videos, random books and retracted studies

If the .world admins are doing it too, it's also bad. Thankfully I didn't list a single .world community, although for another reason.

Citing some random paper doesn't make what your saying not disinformation.

I'm glad there is enough critical mass to move past those fucking hatemongers. "Pure free speech and anarchy!" If you say exactly what we want you to, also don't accidentally offend us with normal fucking words

There's more than just being big, those things may not matter to you, or even the majority, but I've heard enough gripes repeated to know some people are bothered.

The flip flopping on policies without clear transparency bothered some people but tbh I forgave that as growing pains of being in charge of a new popular platform.

The one mentioned more often is how they're one of the main ones to federate with Meta's Threads. Integration isn't really there right now anyway but every other major Lemmy instance has preemptively blocked them already:

I don't think most of the data in the network should be hosted by a single legal entity, that's just unhealthy even if the protocol is open. It's also my main complaint about bluesky- technically open protocol, de facto centralization.

You can see instances that haven't been defederated. Why is it important for everyone to be on the same one? Everyone has the ability to get the same feed on All.

For clarity, the thread you are talking about was filled with reasonable discussion that you doubled down on ignoring. The biggest thing people took issue with is your insistence on having a negative opinion towards something you in the same breath admitted you lacked real knowledge of how the PRC works. There's a difference between having an opinion based on strong investigation, and one made by vibes, something pointed out repeatedly to you.

lol you're still at this after abandoning this thread? The one where you jumped in, whinged about "tankies", and then ignored nearly everything that I said to you while apologizing for not having the time to respond?

Why are you now here and still whinging rather than back at that thread actually engaging? Why are you doubling down on this nonsense when you couldn't defend it directly against your targets of insult?

Remember when you resorted to the homophobic remarks I predicted?

The thing I hate about tankies is the same thing I hate about fascists, every other living thing on earth shares a common ancestor with them. I propose we exile them from the evolutionary tree, return them to the dirt they truly are so that they may be of some use to all living creatures.

I genuinely didn't. How do you check that? I want to see their excuse for banning me

People don't say Xi Jinping looks like Winnie the Pooh because Pooh is yellow, silly. They say it because he kinda looks like Winnie the Pooh

Haha I also like reason: https://legal.lemmy.world/tos/#1-attacks-on-users-or-groups doxing is not ok on lemmy.world

The thread is them saying they would punch nazis

Hey, uhm, I know you're gonna react negatively to this, but could you answer me one simple yes or no question?

Are you pro-Russian?

Seems like whataboutism. Stay on topic.

100% of the people that I've recommended Lemmy to have admonished me for even so much as having mentioned it, citing the extremist rhetoric that calls for violent upheaval of all capitalist systems in the Western world.

If I do a Google search (yuck I know), Lemmy.ml is the 4th hit, and the top hit for an actual instance. On it, the default view shows only Local posts so... yup, that's what a day-1 noob would see, is that instance making fun of capitalism especially the USA.

From the actual top instance, Lemmy.World, those posts make up a significantly smaller percentage of the feed, but how would people know that? And they aren't nothing either.

Also, blocking an instance from Lemmy does very little to curb the onslaught of toxicity from it: that merely mutes the communities hosted there, whereas the users are still free to harass you, triggering notifications, vote to influence the visibility of your content, etc. I was browsing All and made the mistake of replying to a comment in ChapoTrapHouse@hexbear.net one day, and then did that again in lemmygrad.ml, and each time received replies for WEEKS and WEEKS afterwards. I almost quit the fediverse entirely:-(. Browsing from All, how was I supposed to know what those communities, or instances, were all about - was that truly "my" fault for being ignorant? Either way, I almost left, so I understand why none of the irl people I mention Lemmy to will stay either.

The people arguing against defederation are ignoring how users can be harassed here against their consent, and since no other alternatives are being made available on Lemmy to deal with the situation, defederation remains as the only option left.

(Side-note: PieFed does offer several intriguing alternatives, including showing the sidebar text below every post so that someone knows what the community standards are, even arriving at the post from All rather than going through the community page first, and labelling certain instances with special text, e.g. for Beehaw it says:

This post is hosted on beehaw.org which has higher standards of behaviour than most places. Be nice.

with that link to the exact text offered by the instance admins describing their alternative and unusual moderation practices in their own words; and another is in labelling users to allow democratization of moderation rather than a binary remove/retain decision - although while all of these experimental features are awesome, PieFed's UI is quite a bit behind Lemmy's so not quite ready for the masses.)

How do I block users from an instance of my choice?

I'd rather have .ml scaring shitlibs away while they stay on block, best of both worlds.

same logic as "if u hate america then leave".

some people want to do their part to make the site (or country) better. they cant do that by giving up and going back to reddit. lemmy is great....but it could be better.

inshallah

.world is just where right-wingers go to pretend they're not right-wingers.

🤨

Can’t be any worse than the linux rabbit holes on here over just mention of anything electronic. I’m not even arguing it’s like someone obsessed with garden tools and that’s all they can talk about.

To them: Just give it a rest for a second please and talk about literally anything else going on in your life maybe even stick to the topic once in a while.

It’s sad when fanboys make AI generated output seem more interesting and well adjusted.

Most of the users saying this went around screaming the word Tankie all over the place on .ml.

Moderate in what context? Moderate about Jews in 1938 Germany? Jews at some point in time before that? Black people in 1800s Amerikkka. Black people in today's amerikkka?

Being banned means less of a problem for you - got a reason to ignore them and let them echo chamber however they want.

every accusation is a confession.

You probably have some views that are repugnent to me, and vice versa. That's freedom of speech and political pluralism.

being assholes.

This though, I agree just ban that user.

One of the instances believes Hamas are freedom fighters and the state of Israel has no right to exist.

The other believes the inverse.

Who is the fascist with repugnant world views?

Please go back to reddit.

yeah.

I’m waiting until there is a deferated instance from lemmy.ml with downvotes disabled, until then, this is the best I can do.

If you don’t mind downvotes enabled, try lemmy,cafe :)

oh, please not this shit again

I am thinking about tanks, explain.

I’m confused. What are you saying? That word is thrown around against socialists. Tankies is often used to shut someone down and ignore what they're saying no matter how correct it is, or how little it has to do with Marxism.

Whereas worldist don't deny genocide, they'll just say "it's unavoidable because both sides want it anyway so it doesn't really matter because you have to stay realistic so it's not much of a deal really nobody cares".

I wish more people would defederate from .world lmao

HOW AM I SUPPOSED TO MAKE PEOPLE GENOCIDALLY ANGRY AT THESE FUCKING ASIANS IF THEY KEEP DELETING MY BLOOD LIBEL???

Nah im just not a big fan of anyone who simps for putin and the taliban, it's really that simple. If they weren't a bunch of tankie edgelords I'd honestly consider making a hex account, some communities there are neat but not worth having to see all that shit lol

Tbf, many of the users already had accounts on both, but yeah since "no means yes" to them, when HB got defederated from they simply switched to whatever would allow them to continue their harassment campaigns. Lemmygrad.ml users say the same as well.

So if ML ever were to be defederated with, from let's say LW (Lemmy.World), they would continue forward with LW accounts rather than take the strong "suggestion" that they not.

That's why I prefer the approach that PieFed is testing out: not outright blocking it but placing an icon next to users that e.g. are brand-new accounts, or a different icon for those who have more downvotes than upvotes.

Assuming that these settings are a universal part of lemmy and not instance specific, I click my name in the top right corner, select settings from the dropdown, and then there is a page with 2 tabs, one saying settings and a second that I can switch to called "blocks". In the blocks tab, I can view and add to lists of blocked users, communities, and instances. Just go to the instances drop down, and search "lemmy.ml" and click the option that appears to add it to the block list.

I don't mind talking to people I disagree with, but I don't enjoy being called names :P

Good for you. I wish more people would talk to people they don’t immediately share values with.

thx! got more anarchist communities?

i also noticed a recent sync in-congruence from .ml to .world which indicates some kind of funny business... purposeful or not

This isn't unique to world or ml. There's some wonky shit going on with federating across Lemmy at the very least, maybe other parts of the fediverse that I don't use. On walledgarden there are at least half a dozen instances that are falling in and out of sync with our communities. No one on either side of the connection seems to have an answer for what caused this behavior or how to correct it. Talking to some other instances, we aren't alone.

The lemmyverse crawler/site has also shown some odd behavior with communities and instances disappearing and reappearing seemingly at random.

I don't think anything malicious is being done by any of the instances or admins in regards to federation delays.

If that's your argument then I assume the "nazi" accusation is just bs. Lemmygrad and Hexbear were full of extremists.

Damn, never noticed I couldn't say stuff like "the US is a shitshow" over here. The agents on my door were always so nice as well!

Buggers, guess I'll have to buy some Apple stocks now and pleasure myself over a picture of Abraham Lincoln.

It is funny being one of the few somewhat rightwing people on here and getting called a tankie