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New Communities + Beehaw is once again looking for community moderators

quick dual announcement

New Communities

we've tabulated the easiest part of the survey (other results coming NOW) and we're pleased to announce that, in the future, we'll be creating six new communities. these six choices can be stratified as:

Community Moderators

this also means we're taking on new Community moderators. as with last time: this is not a full time job and we don't want it to be, but this is also not a completely trivial commitment either, so please only apply if you're comfortable with making that commitment. (if you think it's becoming overwhelming or too much for you at a later point, that's different and we can discuss that then.) our community mods haven't had many issues though, so i doubt you will either.

What is expected of community moderators?

I'm sure you can surmise, but to be specific:

Encourage and promote respectful and constructive discussions, and address any behaviour that goes against our community's spirit to be(e) nice.
Assist people by answering their questions, offering guidance, and helping them navigate the platform effectively, ensuring they feel heard.
Where possible, give us and/or your fellow active mods concerns, improvements, or insights you have from your section of our community.

What powers do community moderators have?

You'd be expected to use these responsibly, obviously:

The ability to remove or hide posts, comments, or other content that violate our community guidelines.
The authority to issue warnings to users who breach our mantra, and in severe cases, temporarily suspend their accounts.

We generally encourage a compassionate approach to moderating, though. Unless someone is clearly unproductive, we encourage you as a mod to engage in constructive dialogue before banning. And if you don't have the energy for this, you can flag a post to bring it to our (or another mod's) attention.

Additionally: blatantly misusing these or using them maliciously will be instant grounds for demotion, and in the latter case likely permanent banning from the site. Do not do that, please and thank you.

If I'm selected, how can I report stuff to the admins?

On site, you can flag it and leave it for us to deliberate. You can also reach one of us by DM on here.

If you need to immediately contact us for mod stuff, our main hubs of operation are Discord (where we have a specific channel for community mod reports) and Matrix (which is pretty relaxed and easy to follow). You can also use a DM on Beehaw itself.

How will mods be selected?

Hand selection. In the future we may supplement hand picking mods with another method—any mods selected by that method would most likely serve on a temporary basis (and that would be made clear to them on appointing).

Applications can be made here.[^2]

[^{1]: because i've already seen moderately concerning posts w/r/t to this: please do not make us regret this community. it is currently this grouping or nothing.
[}2]: we are working on a non-Google platform here but our first alternative failed to materialize today and there are easily half a dozen other things we need to prioritize right now (including the big 0.18 update, which had its timing on here derailed by a crippling bug). we'll get to an alternative when we do. if you do not want to use the form, DM me and we can arrange something.

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I'm tentatively excited for the veg community here. The communities on other sites can be...a lot.
Maybe just making the name "vegetarian & plant-based" would make people happier? This way people could talk about plant-based cooking regardless of whether it's for dietary, ethical, environmental, religious, or medical reasons as opposed to the specific culture around veganism in particular. I think both vegans and plant-based non-vegans might appreciate it not having the name be inherently tied to veganism.
Regardless, thank you and...good luck! You'll need it, haha
- There should be separate groups for vegans and all other variations. Vegans and vegetarians are not the same and don't belong in the same group. Also, plant-based does not cover vegetarians.
  I know lemmy communities are still small but it's important to have groups which are specific to people's interests, otherwise you're going to wind up with a lot of fighting. It's simple enough.. at a minimum have plant-based, vegan, and vegetarian as separate groups.

All this elitism and drama over the vegan and vegetarian community reminded me why I hate vegans (yes, I'm a vegan who hates vegans. We exist)
I will never understand vegan elitism. The goal should be reducing harm as much as we can. Elitism does nothing to promote veganism as a philosophy and there will always be someone more strict and more ridiculous than you.
There are people who say eating mushrooms isn't vegan because fungi share similarities with animals. I kid you not.
Can I suggest naming the community simply plant-based?
That ways it not only includes the philosophies of veganism and vegetarianism, but also people that for religious reasons or health problems have to follow a dietary regime based solely or mostly on grains, plants, etc.
- I'm against calling the group plant-based. Veganism is concerned with animal welfare and the well-being of the planet, while plant-based ignores all that and only focuses on diet. You say you hate vegans? That's fine, start another group but leave our group alone.
  
  You say you hate vegans? That’s fine, start another group but leave our group alone.
  I see you decided to ignore the fact that I AM VEGAN (which I even mention in my comment) and that I was clearly joking.
  
  Animal welfare and the well-being of the planet are two reasons to be vegan. Some people care about both... scratch that, every decent human being cares about both including people who are not vegan. You can, for example, be a person that loves cats and doesn't want the amazon to be destroyed without being vegan.
  Anyway, some people are vegan for those two reasons. Some are vegan for only one of them. And some are vegan for a combination of other reasons.
  Such as "I will get sick if there's butter in this cake" or "meat is too expensive" or "I follow a religion that says not to kill animals" (which is not the same thing as "animal welfare"). Or maybe someone is a manager at a restaurant, and they're sick of one in ten customers asking "can you make this dairy free?" so they added a vegan label to everything on the menu that is vegan. Or maybe they just want "leather" gloves that can handle frequent exposure to water (vegan leather performs better in wet conditions).
  I'm probably missing some. There are lots of reasons someone might want to discuss "vegan" topics.

Nice to see Beehaw growing om in a controlled matter and not rushing forward! Still keeping our awesome!

Nice additions. I hope it's ok to float an idea here. What if there were an "outdoor recreation" community that included things like camping, hiking, backpacking, but also longboarding, inline skating, paddleboarding, parasailing, disc golf, and any other outdoor activities that don't really need a dedicated community? Just an idea.

I love photography! I like taking pictures of my dog. her name's pancake and she's a sweetheart. thank you for signing up to be a moderator and keep our communities safe from transphobic trolls.

There wasn't a place in the application to write extra notes, so I'll slap em here.
I'd be willing to moderate the anime community but I wouldn't want to be head mod, primarily because I don't want to be responsible for the community guidelines. I think it'd be very nice to have a community that actually moderates transphobic slur usage in the anime community, but this is a touchy subject in the anime community for some reason. I prefer to have someone else to defer to on these kinds of decisions though, because I feel like I can be pretty uptight about stuff.
- rest assured one of our admins wants to take the lead on the community so it avoids that stuff and we'll be well staffed if we pick you, so hopefully it won't be an issue
  
  Love the respect, a lot of bad shit comes from 4chan

Really happy for the new communities! Great stuff, keep Be(e)ing awesome!

- some people have been pushing for an exclusively vegan community with fairly militant rhetoric and to say the least it is a bit offputting, not to mention exceedingly unlikely to happen just on merits. even combined, the community got a "quite niche" level of support on the survey and we could have gone with almost any other community before that one when it comes to a justifiable hand-pick.
  (Also, w/r/t=“with regard to”?)
  yes

Very polemic the decision to group veganism and vegetarian.
Why do you think a diet and a philosophy are the same thing? I do not understand this decision and the stubbornness of it. Why are you not open to discussion?
Please explain how this makes any sense. Why not then socialism and vegetarian? or conservatism and steaks?
Veganism is not a diet. I am not making this up and can be checked by literally any source on the internet.
With this decision, you are undermining what veganism is by reducing it to a simple diet that can be grouped with other non even similar diets.
You pride yourselves that this lemmy instance is respectful and inclusive. But you are disregarding vegans and refusing to even talk about it to improve things so you don't hurt people's feelings.
- you have two options here, man. those options are:
  stop taking this absolutist position and learn to compromise;
  do not use our community or our site (or i suppose get forcibly removed from it eventually)
  the community is going to be made, regardless of how you personally feel--at the end of the day we're not catering to an audience of one and for basically everybody else this is not a worthwhile distinction.
  
  The absolutist position is yours. I am just stating that this is not a well thought choice and you are being stubborn about it.
  You don't even care about the implications of mixing a philosophy with a diet. You don't care what veganism is and you certainly didn't do any research before creating this community.
  You are imposing this on everyone without any previous consideration or conversation. The fact that I am the only one saying this doesn't mean that I am the only one thinking like this.
  If this isn't being authoritarian, then what is it?
  Also, was point 2 a threat? Not sure so just asking for the records.
- you have a heterodox perspective here. most people don't perceive vegans and vegetarians as different in some foundational way, and people who self describe as vegans aren't necessarily in alignment with your perspective. i certainly am not. whatever certainty you seem to have about the distinction between veganism and vegetarianism is not as obvious to other people as you seem to think.
  if you truly are having trouble understanding why veganism and vegetarianism would be grouped together, you are likely in an information silo, because the links between the two are well described on wikipedia, and the philosophical underpinnings of the movements (because vegetarianism is not just a diet, its an ancient and significant cultural practice) are deeply interlinked.
  genuinely would recommend assessing where it is you are getting your attitudes from. to those not invested in the minutia of differences between philosophical movements with similar goals, you arguing to divide along these lines comes off as dogmatic behavior.
  
  Vegetarians can eat fish, eggs, milk, honey, etc. Vegetarians may enjoy leather clothes. Vegetarian can also enjoy activities like fishing or going to see caged animals in a zoo.
  This is a small example but these activities are not vegan because it involves the exploitation and suffering of animals.
  When the community is created, pictures containing food with dead animals can be perfectly uploaded under this 'Vegan and Vegetarian' category. Do you think vegans like to see animals that have been killed for their taste?
- Veganism may be more than a diet, but it certainly involves a diet. This would be your place to discuss the dietary component.
  Doubtless there are other communities that could house the philosophical component. If not, you could spin up a Lemmy instance just for Vegans.
  The point is, most people are not vegans and not even all vegans share your view, so expecting them to cater your very specific perspective is less than realistic. Your ideological purity is not this website's priority. Nor should it be, assuming the goal is to create a vibrant community.
- I am happy to have a vegan space here, but I'm not about to exclude ANYONE because the community does not fully match my expectations. This is a social place to have fun and talk and have constructive discussion. The last thing I want is to put a gate up in a inclusive space. I'm vegan for the animals, but I love everyone here. I choose beehaw for the inclusive and safe space, not to expect it to change to vegan echo chambers similar to reddit.
- I'm vegan personally, but my vegetarian friends and family members approach it much more similarly to my veganism (i.e a philosophy) than a simple diet. You're also forgetting about the millions of people who are lactovegetarian for religious reasons - I'm pretty sure they'd say that it's more than just a diet!
- I actually volunteered to moderate that sub specifically for this reason. I'm hoping mods will be contacted before subs are created to discuss.
  IMO 'Vegetarian and Plant Based' is probably a more fitting sub name/subject.
  I don't think Beehaw is ready for an honest conversation about veganism.
  
  No, they showed they are not ready.
  Which is very strange given that they cater to multiple ideologies, sexual inclinations, races, etc. But no, "there will be no discussion about veganism and you will enjoy what we are imposing, period".
  I'm shocked.
- Veganism is not a diet.
  Neither is vegetarianism. Both are philosophies that involve plant-based diets.

I personally would also love to have a community for "Uplifting news", since global news can be very depressing sometimes. Having some uplifting news is a nice change imo
- I'd like this but I'd hate it if it became like a orphan-crushing machine scenario where it sounds nice that a child sold lemonade over the summer and saved money to pay for kids lunches, but like all kids should have basic nutrition guaranteed at school and options to allow less fortunate students to eat breakfast and/or take home meals. So like genuinely good news about good policy or positive news about anything that isn't tainted by the typical capitalist bullshit or ulterior motive or quasi-nationalism if you can understand what I'm trying to express.
- I keep seeing post tags coming up in the Lemmy issues on github. I hope that it does become a thing, cause having tags in global news would be super useful.

Good work. I wonder if the anime community will be spun up before the Gundam finale on Sunday, hehe

Hi, I've been lurking for awhile but this solidified my decision to make an account.
I am VERY keen to help out with the tabletop games community. I play a lot of tabletop games and have a lot of moderator experience (plus a lot of free time).
I'm always looking to get involved with my interests, and I also want to make sure that the moderator culture from Reddit STAYS on Reddit.
- TGK! Good to see you!
  
  Hey! Nice to see a familiar face.

Thanks for the updates and new communities! I’m sad Fitness didn’t make the list. :(

Is there any possibility of creating communities for fans of individual games/game franchises? I suppose as of right now, the size of Beehaw means that Gaming works fairly well for all video game content but I feel like this is something that won't work forever, especially for games with very large fanbases such as Counter Strike (r/GlobalOffensive on Reddit) or World of Warcraft (r/wow and other related subs on Reddit).
- This is an interesting topic to me. I really wonder if a dedicated Lemmy instance will appear just related to small gaming communities. I miss them too
  
  Agree too. I used to lurk on r/ffxiv so i hope things like that make their own thing on this platform too.

Just applied. Looking forward to the further growth of our communities, and I hope those that get chosen do good work for us all :D
Beehaw seems unusually free of trolls and bad actors, and I really hope it stays that way as we grow

I noticed the other communities are there, but I don't see the vegan / vegetarian one. I understand the topic might be a big controversial, it will bring vegetarians and militant vegans in the same space, and that opposing force might be too much for a community like beehaw to handle. Since that can really push away people from a space.
I feel bad, because I did push for a vegan community, but i'm ignorant to how communities are ran. Vegans that are here already feel at home because of the community beehaw has created.
- I think because this is Beehaw, a Vegan community would be fine.. 99% of Vegans are not argumentive or aggressive about their position, most just want to exist or be informative about the position.
  
  I suppose that part of the problem with a vegan community is that it'd be a magnet for trolls, and might need more active moderation than is usual/desired.

if there will be a dota 2 community I'll help out with that. Dota 2 in lemmy right now is a weird one. There is a major going on and when i make post, some show up most don't. I messaged the mod but no response. Thise which show up takes up like 5 hours to show. So i dont know what is wrong there.

Re. candidate moderators: I have a couple of questions and I wouldn't be surprised if there might be others with them. I'll go ahead and ask them here:
Should the community anticipate openings for additional opportunities to help around in Beehaw, either coming soon or in the long term? I'd think that a fair chunk of this is going to come down to continued work on Lemmy in general, but I'd also suspect there'll be reason for more hands to directly volunteer or work with Beehaw outside of content moderating, too. Admittedly I wouldn't be too surprised if the answer to this amounts to a "we'll Wait and See."
The form gives the chance to select potential openings in a few communities, both new and established. I'd suppose candidates will have a later opportunity to talk more about what communities they think they'll work well in?
- Should the community anticipate openings for additional opportunities to help around in Beehaw, either coming soon or in the long term? I’d think that a fair chunk of this is going to come down to continued work on Lemmy in general, but I’d also suspect there’ll be reason for more hands to directly volunteer or work with Beehaw outside of content moderating, too. Admittedly I wouldn’t be too surprised if the answer to this amounts to a “we’ll Wait and See.”
  probably. if someone wants to do non-mod volunteer work (which right now is mostly pinning down bugs and chiming in on tech issues we're running into) they should probably coordinate what they want to do on the community Discord or Matrix.
  The form gives the chance to select potential openings in a few communities, both new and established. I’d suppose candidates will have a later opportunity to talk more about what communities they think they’ll work well in?
  yes, although unless your first choice (or choices) is already well staffed we generally just defer to that

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