Gamers Bombard Visa & MasterCard With Emails and Calls Over Steam and itch.io Censorship
Gamers Bombard Visa & MasterCard With Emails and Calls Over Steam and itch.io Censorship
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Couldn't you just buy it on GOG or something? Steam sucks anyway why expend the effort
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Talk about completely missing the point. Money processors have no business telling us what we can buy or where.
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Pretty wild how they can literally gatekeep a digital entity.
Maybe they'll demonetize Amazon next..
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You've missed the point entirely.
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Please enlighten me.
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When you buy a game, doesn't matter the platform, you pay for it with a credit card. The credit card companies are holding the game platform hostage, saying either they start censoring what games they sell or they lose the ability to process any credit cards for any games at all.
That is essentially holding a gun to their heads, if they can't process credit cards they can't bring in any money and they might as well just close shop and go home because their business is finished.
You can boycott steam or itch or whatever else, but they all use the same credit card processing systems- Visa, MasterCard, Discover, etc. if they start applying these policies to all game retailers, it will simply become impossible to buy any vaguely pornographic game. Period. Anywhere.Thus, boycotting steam or itch is counterproductive. They are victims just as much as the consumers. They have no desire to ban these games, they were happily selling these games a week ago. But when they are being told 'ban a bunch of low volume games or you cease to exist as a company' that is what they do.
Thus, this phone call campaign. It is focusing on the credit card companies, the ones who are actually applying this pressure to game companies.
It is telling them we do not want them dictating what people are and are not allowed to spend money on. We do not want them to enforce morality. And if they got the impression we did, it's because a small minority made a couple of phone calls.
The idea is if 1,000 people call in and complain about the porn game, and 100,000 people call in and complain about the censorship, hopefully they will get the message.
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gestures at the rest of the thread
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Not my job.
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They will go to gog next, genius, they also sell adult games since last year.
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Hey now, why stop these people FROM CHANGING THE WORLD?! The stakes are too high gramps!
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You are right, let's all do absolutely nothing when corporations inch themselves into controlling every aspect of our lives.
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They came for our porn!!!!!
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Do you support incest and rape video games being globally banned from sale? I mean, I can kind of get it, its fucked up porn.
But I don't like the idea of fictional smut, even if of particularly morally questionable type of porn, gets globally banned (as long as its just fictional obviously).
What people jork their peanits/flick their bean to as long as no one was actually harmed in its production is none of my or your business.
Obviously, there is also the chilling effect of letting this censorship slide and the anti-democratic nature of payment processors being the ones enforcing this. But I suspect those are unconvincing to you and you are happy this stuff is harder to get now. Am I wrong?
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That's their excuse but they are banning all adult games not just the incest and rape ones.
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Fictional isn't the same as not real.
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Fiction is definitionally not true or is made up.
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Cool, I didnt expect you to understand my point.
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If you elaborated and actually explained the specifics of your point instead of being vague you run the risk of having to make an argument in favor of it instead of just feeling safely morally or intellectually superior to a stranger on the internet.
I don't want to waste my time on ego. I know I can be ignorant, I'm looking to learn. I also know some people think they have it all figured out, I hope I can provide a meaningful counter for them to chew on. Maybe I didn't understand you: then fucking explain your point or stop wasting people's time with smug vague posts. This isn't bluesky.
Otherwise, it sounds like you were actively hoping I did not understand your point so you could enjoy the aroma of your own flatulence.
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Cool story.
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Nothing like a gaming platform that won't let you refund your purchases after 2 hours of playtime.
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I think you are confused about this it works. Steam absolutely does refunds after 2 hours of playtime, it's just that if you have less than 2 hours it's mostly automated and you don't need a reason for the refund.
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My bad.
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Still, that gives them the discretion to turn you down.
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No shit.. you think it'd be fair to devs and creators if you could just buy the game, play it for 15 hours and then get a refund every time?
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Better than no refunds?
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I'm looking for something a bit more reasonable. GOG lets you do it within 30 days regardless of playtime I think.
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