Banned over fish joke

UPDATE: The Unbans are showing up on modlog now.: ::: spoiler unban log screenshot

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~~I have traded the month-long ban in the many communities for a 6-day ban in vegan@lemmy.dbzero.com, which is a more reasonable ban~~. this ban has also been lifted now. I appreciate the cooperation from the mod over this misunderstanding.

So it seems i've gotten a month-long ban in..... over 30 communities across lemmy.dbzer0.com, sopuli.xyz, lemmy.ca, programming.dev, and several others, for this comment here.

It's directly replying to a comment saying they can't imagine why anyone thought otherwise about fish feeling pain, which is reasonable. You might notice the quotation marks, because it's satirizing people's mental gymnastics about fishes' pain perception. It was meant in jest, exclusively.

It seems likely that a single mod took this joke wrong and chose to ban me on every community they have control over.

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Well, since it seems it was done in error, I suppose the issue is at an end. I would have said PTB though.
I will still say that preemptive bans are a valid tool. They have to be applied surgically to prevent problems, but there absolutely are multiple reasons to ban someone from a community they haven't yet interacted with.
I'm not sure this one meets the standard though. Even if you had made the comment, or a similar one, seriously, I'm not sure I can see how that would make you likely to go trolling on a vegan community.
Shit, I have actively taken the piss out of the asshole segment of the vegan population, and I don't go to vegan communities and pull that bull. So I can't see why a single comment would be enough of an indicator of future risk. And that's when preemptive bans are a valid tool, when someone is saying or doing something that shows they'll have a high probability of going to a community and cause problems. Not just because they hold a different opinion (no matter how wrong that opinion may or may not be).
Which, despite it being resolved, that is why I would have said PTB to begin with.
However, I'll also say that Sunshine is really easy to get along with normally. Everyone has bad days and makes bad decisions sometimes, and I think that's the case here. An otherwise very sweet person fucking up in a way that's not the norm.
- I will still say that preemptive bans are a valid tool.
  No, unless you are talking about spam bots etc.
  
  I respect that opinion, but I've seen too many cases where communities het as swamped by assholes that had a long standing pattern of being assholes. Not just reddit and lemmy as far as that goes, this stretches back to the nineties on forums and chat rooms.
  You can predict future behavior based on past behavior.
  Use the Nazi bar example. The bouncer sees this dude walking around the neighborhood with swastikas on, it doesn't matter if the asshole is wearing a suit and pays the cover charge when he tries to come in, he's still not going to be a customer you want.
  If I go around trolling vegans, and the mod of a vegan sub bans me only from their vegan sub, that's legit. If I run around throwing slurs, and I get banned from communities for the groups I used slurs towards, fuck me, I deserve the bans. When it comes to bigotry in specific, I'd deserve to be banned everywhere.
  But it does need to be surgical, and appropriate to the degree of douchebaggery involved.
  As a tool, refusing to let people into a community/forum that will absolutely contribute nothing is a useful tool.
  
  I completely disagree. Next stage from that is a thoughtcrime.
  
  You're welcome to disagree :)
  It isn't like there's only one right away that applies everywhere to everyone all the time.
  
  Lemmy does love going after thoughtcrime though

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