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Mod at Palestine@lemmy.ml removes comment, probably based on a political bias.

I commented the following on this post problem is not Netanyahu, it is not Ben Gvir. it is the white supremacist mindset of Israeli public.

This is not new, extremists gain power, they are then making everything they can to stay in power while they slowly turn anyone they can to their side. They use the education system, political systems, laws and the media. Considering that Netanyahu has been in power since 2009 he has literally shaped the political and moral ideology of a significant part of the population. Imagine being 10 yo at 2009, by the time you van vote all you ever knew was Netanyahu. At the end of the day, an adult that is calling for genocide is responsible for their opinions and actions, but this is how a situation where a majority of a country if genocidal happens, with slow, steady and intentional manipulation of the public. Netanyahu and his terrorist goons ARE the problem, but at this point removing them from power is just a small part of the solution. As a kid I always wandered how people can truly think a genocide is a good idea, as an adult I am sad to see that it really is that easy, it really can start with just the wrong people gaining power. And just to be fair, this is very much true about Palestine as well. While the situation is completely different, they too have been under a genocidal and terroristic regime since 2006 and many (probably most) would answer similarly to such a questionnaire about Israelis and Jews. Of course Palestine have had the short end of the stick for all of those years while Israel got to become a developed country. It's just sad to see how the people in power just fuck everyone around them, no one wins, no one is happy, all you get is death, hate and destruction, and of course the reason for all of this: Money, religion, power.

I don't know how to check who the mod was but it seems that they are removing plenty of content, some of which seems to be content that just doesn't support a black and white view of the situation where Palestinians are the only victims and Israelis are all evil (not excusing genocide here)

And the weird thing is that rule one has nothing to do with the comment:

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  • The post was deleted by an admin ^1 and the 'rule 1' should be the instance rule 1:

    1. No bigotry - including racism, sexism, ableism, homophobia, transphobia, or xenophobia.
    1. Your comment on the Palestinian community, in my opinion, is a poor analysis of the historical and material conditions that have led to the current situation in Palestine. It ignores Zionism, colonialism, and the structural racism of Israel, both as a Zionist political project initially and as an effective state later.
    2. You repeatedly use 'they' in your comment, with these 'they' being the extremists. My interpretation of your comment is that it starts from the hypothesis that 'extremism is bad'. I totally disagree. Often the extremists have been the vanguard of progress (people who believed that the earth revolved around the sun, 'liberals' willing to risk their lives cutting off the heads of kings and bishops...), although they can also be the vanguard of reaction (e.g. fascism).

    If points 1 and 2 are correct, the violation of rule 1 is easily derived (dog-whistle, Zionist apology, anti-Palestinian resistance...).

    IMHO, this only justifies deleting an elaborate comment if the community is defined as a safe space for Palestinians, they justifiably believe you are trolling, or they are flooded with similar messages. Otherwise, what the admin should have done is down-vote and reply for what they consider your argument to be toxic.

    PTB/BPR

    • I'm not a historian, I will probably make mistakes and I am open to conversation and criticism.

      There is a lot of history here that I am not mentioning in the comment.

      My comment was really about the fact that this lumping of groups is part of the problem. If 65% of Israelis are pro genocide that still leaves 3.4 million people that are presumably against it. Understanding that once a genocidal leader is in power for long enough, it absolutely can lead to hatred filled brainwashing which makes more of the population genocidal and this is how we get to such high numbers.

      And I say this is true about Palestine as well because you hear the same BS from pro Israel people who claim that because so many Palestinians are celebrating Hamas they must all be genocidal, which probably means that they are actually ignoring some hundreds of thousands of people who do want peace.

      Without getting into the past, you have to acknowledge that these broad accusations are part of the problem.

      As for the extremists part, I specifically mean genocidal people, not just any extremists. I am well aware that extremists always have been and always will be a critical part of positive change.

  • The difference between Israeli violence against Palestinians and Palestinian violence against Israelis is that Israel colonized Palestine.

    I'm tired of liberals both-sidesing this bullshit, not only on the internet as a whole but on fucking !Palestine@lemmy.ml? YDI.

  • YDI.

    Anyone who “both sides” a genocide not only deserves to be banned from a community for the oppressed people, but they are also a shit human being and a liberal. This is peak .world behavior, the only thing it’s missing is someone whining about CiViLiTy.

    TLDR: you disgust me, I hope your shoelaces never stay tied, you step in dog shit every time you go outside, and you get an itchy rash that never goes away and covers half your face.

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