China calls for 2-state solution with Palestinian state to move past Nakba
China calls for 2-state solution with Palestinian state to move past Nakba – Middle East Monitor
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If you go there and look at the map you will realize a two state solution has been a dream of those who didn't look at that map for decades.
Pulling those people out of there would be political suicide for the Israeli government, they can't do it. Settlements sound like a house here and there, but it's whole communities with universities, hospitals, fire departments, malls, etc. It's all so extremely interwoven for decades, and yes, it's getting worse.
They did exactly that in Gaza in 2005 and removed the 8,000 Settlers from 21 settlements. But in the Westbank we're talking about a number 100 times that. And also, did it bring peace to Gaza?
I'm not saying that I have a solution, but just saying they should have 2-states is wishful thinking in my opinion.
You can really see how they've shaped what's left of Palestine up into numerous small ghettos. Isolating groups and slowly eating away at them.
Weird.
The Nazis did the same back in the 1930s.
This comparison is just wrong.
Care to provide details and evidence to justify your position?
Are you fucking serious? All president shithead needs is meth or heroin and he doesn't need the mustache. Alt Right Jewish extremists are the government right now and they want Israeli state of Israel and Palestine similar to Isis but backed by USA.
The company is asking you to look at these two images:
“Zionist” and “Nazi”.
They’re the same image.
how so
Palestinian philosopher and writer Edward Said was also famously in favor of a one-state solution which granted equal rights to Palestinians.
I think that is honestly the only way forward, but feel like it will take extended intervention by a foreign government or international organization to enforce. And I am guessing that really means extended at this point.
There’s too much bad blood for either side to trust another with political power. Even if they dropped their arms tomorrow, one state solution wouldn’t happen, at the very least not in the nearby time.
It's already a one-state reality, an apartheid state.
That’s one way to look at it, but I doubt it’s productive. We should be trying to get a two state solution out there.
The West Bank has been divided into hundreds of bantustans.
The settlements represent land-grabbing, and land-grabbing and peace-making don’t go together, it is one or the other. By its actions, if not always in its rhetoric, Israel has opted for land-grabbing and as we speak Israel is expanding settlements. So, Israel has been systematically destroying the basis for a viable Palestinian state and this is the declared objective of the Likud and Netanyahu who used to pretend to accept a two-state solution. In the lead up to the last election, he said there will be no Palestinian state on his watch. The expansion of settlements and the wall mean that there cannot be a viable Palestinian state with territorial contiguity. The most that the Palestinians can hope for is Bantustans, a series of enclaves surrounded by Israeli settlements and Israeli military bases.
"Its support – and this includes what is even called the ‘peace camp’ in Israel – for a two-state solution is an idea that says that you do not have to directly control every part of historical Palestine in order to establish your dominance and hegemony between the River Jordan and the Mediterranean. So, if you can squeeze the Palestinians into small Bantustans and allow them to have a flag and a semblance of a government, there are quite a few Israelis who do not mind at all, so long as this will be the last and final kind of settlement for the Palestine question. Which means no real political rights for the Palestinians, no right of return for the refugees, and keeping all Palestinians in different parts of historical Palestine, at best as second-rate citizens, at worst, as subjects in an apartheid state.
Palestinians want a free Palestine from the river to the sea, where everyone is free. Israelis want a religious ethno supremacist state, there's not bad blood on both sides, you are both siding a genocide and history will recall your sentiment very poorly.
It’s not difficult at all. You build on foreign land you lose it.
At this point it can't be worse than what is happening now.
I'm afraid they can and will find a way ... 😢
Israel doesn't really want Gaza.
At best they want it pacified or just exterminated.
But the West Bank, oh man.
"It's free real estate!!!"