If they somehow manage to make Musk sell his shares, Tesla might become a viable company again.
Until then: I don’t care.
- Idk, even before Musk went full meth head things were already heading south pretty fast - they'd completely squandered their first mover advantage and their "move fast and break things" approach was really starting to take a toll on their brand reputation. Teslas were already starting to be known as expensive cars with terrible build quality, then the constant delays and broken promises about self driving did them no favors either.
  A Tesla made sense when they were pretty much the only really viable luxury EV, but when you can get equivalent cars (with better build quality) from established Western manufacturers for ~75% the price or from a Chinese manufacturer for ~60%, what advantage do they have?
  Musk's cult of personally is/was a big part of it, so they are kinda screwed either way - the stink of Musk won't instantly vanish if they get rid of him, and taints everything while he stays
  
  Yeah I think they would have had to slow down or stop sales and make a big deal about reworking their production lines for better QC. Then come back a year or two later with actual improvements. I think Tesla probably have enough brand recognition that they can survive without Musk so hopefully they kick him out.
  I think the US car industry as a whole is due for a major price adjustment, so I kind of see that as it's own issue. Car prices need to be cut at least in half to make them practical as utility items. We're being asked to drive vehicles that costs as much as a house did 30 years ago, and are approaching the same size, on the highway and leave them parked inches from each other.
  
  It really shows how good traditional vehicle manufacturers actually are and the whole worth of Tesla is basically a meme stock. Toyota, Mazda etc are still making cars that run almost new 10 years later.
  
  The magic of Tesla was that they're constantly iterating on the same model. The first 1000 teslas and the last 1000 teslas have nothing in common, not a single part. I don't know how it is now, I stopped caring when Elongated started to show his true colours, but before that Tesla's model actually had merit and gave them huge advantage.
  
  The initial cars were the worst (cyber truck excluded) and they had hardware store bodge jobs and overly complex mechanisms. But by the Model 3 they had revised a lot of the problems away, especially on the Model S.
  They were still never built like a Mercedes (or even a VW), but they had improved a lot of the early issues. Then Musk got even nuts-er
- Introducing the Tesla phantom zone cyber prison first and only volunteer - Elon!
- Do you know the saying, the revolution devours all its children.
  The electric car revolution is over. Tesla is over.
  
  The electric car revolution is over.
  Ah yes, I forgot that the USA is the only country in the world, my mistake.
  
  Huh? EVs are more popular than they have ever been, and most of the developed world is edging ever closer to ICE bans for newly sold cars (most are 2035).
  Why are you being so ideological about the fuel type people's cars use?
  
  What I am saying is the other way round: The revolution is no revolution anymore, EVs have become normal things. Therefore nobody needs any super special niche products, overpriced but lacking most of the qualities that normal cars have - a.k.a. Teslas, anymore.

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