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Don't waste time interacting with those who chose to be obdurate

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I think it's important to downvote them and even make them feel unwelcome. You can't let Nazis and white supremacists in your communities because any community that doesn't kick out Nazis will eventually find itself overrun by Nazis fleeing communities that kick them out.
You don't need to argue or make a fuss, but make sure to downvote anyone who doesn't believe all people are born equal and that people have a right to choose what to do and who to love.
- On top of that, I think we should be clear about what we don't like. Right wing isn't itself evil, but low rung right wing ideology will send us back to the dark ages. As would low rung left wing ideology. We must strive to be better, entertaining only high rung ideas in conversation, in order to elevate our collective understanding
- People downvote me all the time and I just think "well they're wrong, I've laid out my argument and they can't refute it". So I imagine Nazis feel the same way when you downvote them.
  Edit: case in point
  
  Imagine being able to justify yourself by finding commonality with Nazis.
  
  That's.... not what they are saying. They are critiquing the strategy. If nazzis and I agree 1+1 makes 2 that doesn't mean we're all Nazzis.
  I don't understand why so many struggle with addressing the message and are so eager to shoot the messenger. It's weird but really common on Lemmy.
  
  We aren't allowed to critique strategy or work together to better ourselves or our plans with outside views that allow us to see and adjust to match an ever changing world...
  That would be so bad for my social media feed. The algorithm would have to completely relearn what I like and that would be a hassle.
  
  Using one example to make the rule is bad logic.
  
  I don't even know what your point is.
  Okay, let me try and help. You said this:
  If nazzis and I agree 1+1 makes 2 that doesn't mean we're all Nazzis.
  Now, we’re going to count many examples you used to illustrate your point:
  I counted one, and this was it right here:
  If nazzis and I agree 1+1 makes 2 that doesn't mean we're all Nazzis.
  Using a single example to make a point of comparison is dumb. Because one could just as easily say that I breathe air, and similarly, so do hamsters, therefore- I must be a hamster.
  Demonstrably, this is untrue. And it’s a dumb argument to make. And it’s not the argument I made. I simply said that calling upon a similarity shared with Nazis isn’t going to make the point one would probably wish to make.
  (And the plural of Nazi is “Nazis.” Don’t be afraid to spell their name correctly. It’s not for the purpose of showing respect to them, it’s showing respect to the person that has to read what you’re saying)
  
  You're really hung up on the debate bro argumentation
  NO IM NOT!
  and seem to be intentionally missing the point everyone is trying to convey to you.
  Which is?
  Get over yourself man.
  Done!
  No one is giving you a hand job for your superior intellectual acumen.
  Well now that’s fucking disappointing. I thought for sure there’d be some kind of reward for having to deal with some random’s little White Knight complex. I mean, you barged in here to the defense when you weren’t even called upon! Should I have just conceded right there and fed your horse for you?
  Debate bro indeed.
  
  No man there is no white knight complex. Again, with the weird labels.
  However, there is a weird fixation with users on this platform unable to engage with a topic without having to categorize and label whoever they are engaging with.
  For instance: Someone pointed out an extremely neutral fact and it went straight to "well you're a nazi". It's kinda sad and ultimately I just question what even is the point of discussing anything on this platform when it will always escalate within 1-2 comments to boxing someone into some kind of ad hominem or label the way you did?
  
  Do you just delete the comments you make that get downvoted? It’s bad for lemmy to disrupt discussion by fragmenting conversations because you don’t “win.”
  Either own what you say, or don’t say it.
  
  Bye!
  
  He means that the nazis wont give a samb about the downvotes and that it would be better to be clear to their faces.
  
  That’s what I thought I was doing.
  
  .ml hmmmm
  Edit: Actually with the age of your account that probably doesn't mean much
  
  Maybe,,, I dunno.... some self reflection to understand WHY people downvote you all the time, might improve something about you?
  
  I just scrolled my post history and picked an example. Like why is this downvoted? It's literally just an answer to OP on how to do what they want https://lemmy.ml/comment/18043111
  
  You have roughly the same amount of downvotes as OP, based on context folks were probably reflexively downvoting because it’s an AI discussion.

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