The one good thing about all this

The best part about it is that almost no US tech would work without Taiwan's chips
Oh and that China somehow did not get angry at that publicly as of yet, very weird
- At this point in time, China is just sitting back and laughing as Trump weaken the US.
  Remember, don't correct an enemy as they are making a mistake.
  
  For all it's flaws, the TPP was about to effectively zone China out of trading advantageously with the whole developed world. Now, US instability and bullying have made Japan and South Korea partner with China.
  Trump is handing China the 21st century on a silver platter.
  
  They're patiently waiting for the value of American businesses crash hard to buy it for cheap
  
  I'm sure they rationally assume Trump is totally unfamiliar with that policy.
  
  I feel like Russia is laughing, and China and America are both the crying wojak with the smirk mask.
- He also listed uninhabited Australian islands and a US military base on an otherwise uninhabited UK island as separate countries. So I would guess China decided that the country list is basically meaningless.
  
  That's because the DOGE morons used TLD codes to make the list.
- China is just going triple the price of everything and blame the tariffs for it.

It could help with global warming by decreasing consumption.
- looking for a silver lining.... good on you friend. thank you for the perspective shift
- lol. That's what the new coal mines are for, silly! The children yearn for the mines... https://www.nytimes.com/2025/04/08/climate/trump-order-coal-mining.html
  
  sorry, my family only uses all natural bone coal
- Other than the crippling economic crisis it's putting us through, I really like that things in the grocery store are better labelled to show they're local or Canadian now. I've always preferred to buy local because it's better for the environment, now it's easier.
- Good question. How is he going to sell oil, which are his main sponsors?
- Art of the Green Deal

The EU. Everyone's favourite country.
- Well it's a single trading block with free internal trade, it would be Impossible have different import tax levels for different countries within the union without them being trivial to circumvent.
  
  if he really wanted to do some damage, he could pick a random port city - Durrës, say - and decide that goods sent from there incur no tariff. then, after the logistics change to ship out of there, invert the tariff structure and send that region into unrest
- EUSSR, the country of healthcare and public transport.
  
  Jealous :P

I said that in a thread the first day felon 47 showed us that .
I said this "New headline. Trump tariffs confirm Taiwan sovereignty."
- He had some things like that his first term too. I'm pretty sure he does just to piss China off. He's not really interested in helping Taiwan.
  
  Oh I know. I'm pretty sure though he doesn't understand why it pisses china off.

Doesn't mean anything. If PRC ever invades, he'll ditch Taiwan just like he's ditching Ukraine right now.
- Taiwan could invade PRC and he'd only have a minimal idea of what's going on.
- I don't think so, I think he'd be on the side of whoever is fighting China. He's got it in for them, and has for a very long time.
  
  [Russia + USA] invades China?
  🤔
  Maybe when both side loses, the EU can liberate everyone?
- My worst case scenario is that HitlerPig keaves NATO, and joins an alliance with Russia, China, North Korea, etc.
  As a show of good faith to his new "friends," he will give Alaska back to Russia, and Taiwan back to China. He will claim it's a good deal, because they gave him Canada and Geeenland, even though those countries aren't theirs to give.
  He'll act like the lonely rich kid, bribing the cool kids to let him hang with them, but they'll just use him for what they can get from him, and hate him all the same.
  
  Axis of Evil, Then vs Now:
  Then: Germany, Italy, Japan
  Now: Russia, China, USA
  💀

Yep, because Taiwan is a country, and the real China.
- China is West Taiwan
  
  The USA is west Cuba
  
  Occupied mainland Taiwan
  
  That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.
  The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.
  As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.
  As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.
- That's kinda like if the Confederacy, upon losing the Civil War, fled and occupied Cuba, and was propped up millitarily by, say, the UK as a millitary foothold to keep the US in check back when the UK still had Imperialist chops, then saying the Confederate-occupied Cuba is the real US.
  The fact is, the Communists and Nationalists had a 2 decade long civil war, and the Communists won against the Nationalists, who then fled to Taiwan, where the Nationalists have maintained that they are the legitimate government of China.
  As with any revolution, such as the French, American, Vietnamese, Russian, Cuban, etc, I don't think it makes much sense to declare the French Monarchy, British Empire, French Colonialists, Russian Tsarists, or fascist Batista regime the "rightful" rulers of the countries the people themselves overthrew, and that extends to China.
  As for Taiwanese people, the overwhelming majority support maintaining the status quo, with few wanting hard independence or reconcilliation. This may change now that the US is pivoting away from them as well, but both the PRC and ROC seem to be content to maintain the uneasy status quo for the time being. War would be devastating for Taiwan in particular.
  
  Holy copy-pasta, batman!
  Can I get a delicious cookie recipe as well?
- I thought Taiwan was an independent country?
  
  Don't pull a muscle, prc boi
- inb4 this comment gets downvoted by tankies
  
  It is sad. Everyone is gloating, cheering on a possible conflict in the future. We've seen this kind of escalation and warmongering in 2013 in Ukraine. "Of course that country on the doorstep of our big geopolitical rival should be independent and join our military pact! Hahaha lololol!"
- average .ml user (aka tankie)

Putting tariffs on Taiwan is the first step to making them reconcile with China.
Cambodia at 97% highlights how fucking moronic this all is. Let me reindustrialize the economy by cutting off our raw inputs.
- A reconciliation goes both ways; that is, both parties are happy.
  If that's the case, then my post still stands.
  
  yeah, sure. reminds me of this nonsense
  
  I wasn't trying to debate your point.
- Why would Taiwan reconcile with China, dude?
  
  Better trade relations if we keep imposing tariffs on them, obv.
  Or were you asking why the Peoples Republic of China and the Republic of China would ever have anything to reconcile over?

The REAL reason China slapped the US with those reciprocal tariffs.

xi is gonna be pissed both that they recognize taiwan and that they charge them less

Well that's because they're different regi--.. oh it says Countries
- Yes, countries like the EU, which is also on the list.

Bro looks like a corpse

And one more to the Mueller stack
Russia received no additional tariffs
- Russia is already on its own "special list" of countries that have very heavy trade restrictions. Like North Korea.
  I don't think tariffs would've made a difference there.
  
  Trump imposed tariffs on uninhabited islands near Antarctica, but not Russia.
- Wtf is the Mueller stack?

lemmy dot ml is now confused.
- I don't think tankies are keen on recognising Taiwan. They think it should still be part of China.
  
  Exactly, that’s what they are saying

Im suprised taiwan is so high
- His "math" for calculating each is surprisingly simple and not based on anything "reciprocal" https://youtu.be/j04IAbWCszg

Wow, Trump really is undermining US foreign policy. Damn, Trump really wants to go out of the way to finally destroy Nixon's legacy.

offtopic: why do i feel like palantir has a lot to do with this current administration's policies
- I’m sure they have their own perverse AI calling all the shots

It comes from chy-nah

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Never realized how left leaning Lemmy was.
- It varies by instance, some are more Marxist, some are more Anarchist, some are more liberal, some are blends of 2 of those. However, the 2 biggest factors are that the Developers are Marxists and thus Marxists have been building communities here from the beginning, and the rejection of Reddit, a highly corporatized social media platform, in order to jump to a smaller FOSS platform, fits neatly with general anticapitalism.
  
  Very thoughtful and nice comment. Thank you!