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Americans posting memes against American Imperialism, while simultaneously having an American-Centric worldview about the world in regards to citizenship.
Ironic.
(No offense to OP 😉)
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tbh I had no idea Europe was so racist. Citizenship based on "blood" sounds like something out of the middle ages.
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Countries that use Jus Soli usually also have Jus Sanguinis. The USA for example. My friend is a US citizen despite not being born there because his mother is a US citizen.
Not having Jus Sanguinis would be downright horrible. Imagine your mother moves back to her home country and if you want to follow her you have to clear immigration hurdles.
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Yeah having it as well is good. Using only it is inhumane and barbaric.
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For that matter, aren't borders kinda inhumane and barbaric in the first place? They declare some people as second-rate. They trap people in poor dictatorships, but are oh so permeable for conflict minerals or products of sweatshops
Could your point be that generally more ways to become citizen is a better than less?
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Yeah
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It's based on paperwork, not blood.
You can't just turn up, release your spawn and claim it belongs there. We're not frogs in a pond.
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What a cringe attitude to have. People born in a country should have citizenship.
You love your pearly gates and blocking people out in Europe, don't you?
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People born in a country should have citizenship.
Why?
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Because it assures that people raised there aren't separated from the country of origin. It blocks issues. It's better. Why do you think they shouldn't?
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Being the child of a tourist is not the same as being raised somewhere.
The kind of Ius Soli the US practices gives citizenship to the children of tourists and people being born in a plane flying over the country, without having been raised there.
Most european nations have special citizenship rights if you grew up in that nation or were born there after one of your parents has resided there at least some time.
Example Germany:
Children of non-German parents acquire German citizenship at birth if at least one parent has a permanent residence permit and resided in Germany for at least five years prior to the child's birth.
Btw. after residing legally in Germany for 5 years the parent can themselves acquire german citizenship, so can the child upon turning 18, even if they weren't born in Germany.
Example France:
Children born in France to foreign parents may acquire citizenship from age 13 subject to residence conditions. A child born in France to foreign parents becomes a French citizen automatically upon turning 18, provided that they reside in France on their 18th birthday and have had their primary residence in France for a total (but not necessarily continuous) period of at least 5 years since the age of 11. Children born in France to two stateless parents receive French nationality automatically at birth.
Also you can always go through the normal ways of acquiring citizenship. Upon turning 18 and having been raised in the country you usually fulfill all requirements for it.
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That's crazy that you need to be 13, or 18 to get citizenship in france. That's some gated communities type shit. Personally, I'm not a fan of nymbys.
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Oh wow, you are really doubling down on proving OPs point, aren't you?
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Yes. People doubling down on proving their own points is a normal thing.
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How so? Seems reasonable to me to have the same citizenship as my immediate family. And if you want to change it you can apply for it and get it no problem.
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You shouldn't have to apply to be a citizen of somewhere you've lived your whole life. If your parents were immigrants and you're not, you should have dual citizenship from birth.
Also, citizenship shouldn't exist, but if it has to, it should be permissive enough that someone could never be refused citizenship of the only country they've ever lived in.
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