2y ago

Kbin upvote vs Lemmy upvvote

I already understood that, for now, the Kbin upvote not really upvote a post/comment and to do so, I need to boost it.

But, how do Lemmy (and possibly other sites from Fediverse) deal with this difference?

For example:
If I boost a Lemmy post in Kbin, it'll count as an upvote on Lemmy? Or do I need to upvote it when it's a cross-post from another Fediverse?
And how does Lemmy understand a boost in post at Kbin?
Also, if someone at Lemmy upvote my post in Kbin, it'll count as an upvote or as a boost?

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Conceptually Boost and Upvote are intended for different things. That is in my very limited understanding.
Upvote is for the post only, but if you boost then the thing you boosted will be shared with your followers and is on your public feed.
The reputation calc does not look at upvotes at the moment, only boosts. This may change soon as the kbin author changes the site to be a better merge between the mastadon and lemmy concepts.
We are on a brand new developing platform. Things are changing fast, as we kick the tires and take it for a spin. It is both refreshing and exciting.
- Oh, now I see! So the upvote is really an upvote and the only difference is that it doesn't count for reputation, right?
  
  In Mastodon there are ‘likes’ and boosts. The like is the equivalent of an upvote here, as I understand it. A like is just a message to the author that their comment or post is cool. A boost is a message to your followers ’hey guys, you should look at this’
  
  That brings into question what downvotes are, then hah.
  
  They aren't used in Mastodon. Maybe they are in other platforms (misskey?)
  
  Nope.
  And, at the very least, kbin downvotes don't federate. Lemmy's might, but they won't be recognized by other platforms.
  
  That is my understanding yes.
  
  I tested upvoting in Lemmy and KBin and I do see the upvotes go up and down on both sites.
  
  Yes, and no. kbin is a bit in no-man's land somethings like reputation and 'top' sorting use boosts, but and upvote is indeed an upvote and it is quite likely the the reputation and top sorting will be changed at some point.
  This is an open issue still being discussed, see my other comment below:
  https://kbin.social/m/kbinMeta/t/88976/Kbin-upvote-vs-Lemmy-upvvote#entry-comment-375345
  
  Yes. The reputation calculation just haven't been updated yet.
  You should update your post to clarify so the misunderstanding of upvotes not being upvotes doesn't spread more.
- kbin author changes the site to be a better merge between the mastadon and lemmy concepts.
  I hope the devs from all Fed would mutually agreed on their lingos.
  
  I'm (as a dev experimenting with the fedi) more interested in the features each platform adds to the fedi and ensuring we have consistency. Which is probably included in what you said, i'm just being explicit.
  Ie regardless of if it's an upvote or a star, hypothetically it should have a similar effect in all platforms that federate with that value. If it modulates score in an algorithm, it should "mean" the same thing to the fediverse so that it has similar outcomes in all platforms. A silly but extreme example of this failing would be one site upvotes and downvotes meaning opposite things on two implementations - it would be chaos hah.
  I hope (but don't yet know until my implementation is further along) that Like and Boost are functionally different. I also hope no ones implementation is conflating them.
  Either way interesting times and i'm excited to see where we take it :)

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