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Ukraine says Russia launched an intercontinental missile [non nuclear] in an attack for the first time in the war

apnews.com Putin says Russia attacked Ukraine with a new missile that he claims the West can't stop

Russian President Vladimir Putin says Moscow has tested a new intermediate-range missile in a strike on Ukraine and that it could use the weapon against countries that have allowed Kyiv to use their missiles to strike Russia.

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So we're at the point where it's necessary to clarify missiles aren't nuclear? Great
looks at doomsday clock
- Well yes we do, ICBMs are generally associated with nukes because their sheer cost normally makes them impractical for standard explosive payloads.
  
  If it even is an ICBM. Ukraine says it's an ICBM, and they're 90% confident about that. The US thinks it's an IRBM, which given the range involved, would make more sense. If it's an ICBM, then Russia did it just out of spite.
  
  From wikipedia:
  In principle there is very little difference between a low-performance ICBM and a high-performance IRBM, because decreasing payload mass can increase the range over the ICBM threshold.
  Sounds like different militaries just classifying things differently
  
  Also the range is the only thing that's different between them, they can both carry nukes. I suspect they did this to make that point. They want Ukraine to be afraid of launching deep attacks.
  
  Spite, or to make the point that they have nukes and the capability to deliver them. An ICBM - or an IRBM for that matter - evokes nuclear fears, which is why the non-nuclear part needed to be clarified. They've been making threats about that recently, so I suspect this is Russia's version of passive-agressive.
- “Not even in the face of Armageddon. Never compromise.”

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