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Where is nuclear fossil free? Show me the unranium tree please.
- Even though it certainly isn't renewable, Uranium is not a fossil fuel. That would imply it's made with the remains of dead organisms.
  
  While all power plants have a one time carbon cost to build and decommission, there is a continuous carbon cost to mining nuclear fuel. I think that's what GP was hinting at.
  
  Nuclear fuel lasts so long in modern reactors that it's kinda a silly point though.
  What you need to be looking at is lifetime carbon costs per kWh, that's the only real meaningful comparison.
  
  A Single tank lasting long is not necessarily a good thing. It means you have to put in the effort up front. It also does not negate the cost of fuel/W
  
  It's even worse than fossil fuel:
  Carbondioxide has its natural circle, if we stop burning fossil fuels nature can remove carbondioxide by itself.
  This does not work for uranium or plutonium, and the pathetic tries to get it into a circle have polluted e. g. Sellafield UK and other countrisides.
- Uranium is a radioactive element. Part of the periodic table. Not organic. It was made by exploding stars mainly if my memory serves me right
  
  ie not renewable
  
  It's not renewable but it is fossil free.
  
  This is going a bit too far for my old brain
  
  Oil on the other hand is renewable. You just need to wait a while.
  
  Oil is not, nor is coal. Oil and coal were laid down when plants died in absence of bacteria that could digest them
  Now wood rots.
  
  That's a good point. I stand corrected
  
  Honestly, if you wait long enough, everything is. Even heavy chemical elements decay and split and break and eventually you get back to a proton and an electron (hydrogen)
  
  No, but still fossil free (which is how the original post described it).
- Do you know what the word "fossil" means?
- Show me the rare earth tree for solar panels, or the carbon fiber tree for windmills.
  
  There is zero percent rare earth in solar panels.
  
  At least these material are theoretical recycleable while uranium is not (once an atom is split you don't put it together again)
  
  You get that a "carbon fibre tree" is literally just a tree right?
  (also, wind turbines tend to be made out of much cheaper glass fibre. Admittedly this does not grow on trees, but unless you're willing to ban windows and home insulation too it doesn't make that much sense to complain about it.)
  
  Rayon's a different material, not carbon fibre.
- I was mistaken as i thought fossil free == renewable, but the definition is actually different, which makes "fossil free" a useless goal.
- The lobby green washed it, that's how.
  The term fossil free is just easier to accomplish, we should be using environment friendly, because that's the goal.
  The last time i checked, producing environmental dangerous trash for millenniums isn't environment friendly.
  Even in the best case it's a bad solution, but now they are really really safe, not like before, trust me bro

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