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"Earning a living"

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I've always believed that everyone should be able to have, for free, a permanent private living space of at least 80sqft, a reasonably comfortable bed, access to a toilet and shower and associated toiletries, clothing suitable for the weather, water and food (even if only some flavorless nutritional paste), and access to medical care both as-needed and on a regular basis. if you have no ambition in life beyond sitting in that little room staring at the wall and eating soylent, then so be it, for a society to provide any less is immoral
- Are you ready to work and spend almost your whole salary to satisfy the needs of those who don't? Because work creates all those amenities. If they don't work, means you need to work more and results of your work be distributed.
  
  Do you think the "richest country in the world" should have people dying of exposure or malnourishment? That they should end up that way because of a bad cosmic dice roll?
  Check your privilege. Nobody is self-made in a vacuum.
  
  USA defaultism. I'm not American. And from my perspective you have worse problem to than malnourishment.
  
  Nice dodge, Neo. Very pretty sidestep. Now, answer the fucking question. It's an easy yes or no.
  
  Easy: I don't give a fuck. It's your contrymen, not mine. If you really care you would open a volunteer org by now. But as of now, it's just a nice talking point. So why should I care if you don't?
  
  Yes I am willing to take less for myself if those in need receive more.
  Most people will work if they are able. Maybe we need more incentives for "shitty" jobs, but few people will want to live at such a base minimum level and do nothing. It is however, infinitely more humane than letting them die in the streets
  Do you not have a burning desire in your heart to labor? to derive some meaning out of your life? For nothing but your own enrichment or accomplishment?
  
  Most people won't work if they are able. This is quite literally the main incentive behind hard work and investments today.
  Like if instead of buying an apartment at mortgage I would be able to just receive one, I would pack my savings into crypto, get the space, and play games 24/7 till I die. Maybe I'd get bored and start doing some personal project, but most likely I won't.
  I'm in top 4% earners in my country btw, my taxes pay roughly for ~4 person welfares. If people like me have no incentive to continue working the system you build will collapse super fast.
  
  You could've just said you were an elistist shitbag from the beginning and saved everyone time.
  Edit: you clearly don't know what real life is like. Enjoy your privilege. Gfys
  
  I'm working class. You are welfare class.
  I'm done here.
  
  I'm in top 4% earners in my country
  I’m working class.
  Fucking lol.
  You're either a damn liar (nobody does that on the internet!), or you're owner class. If you're actually in the top 4%, it's all the people below you that are working class. You just suck up their labor, you parasite.
  
  Ever hear of the precariat?
  It's growing. It's coming for you.
  
  I literally work and earn my money. I have less assets than good chunk of "poor" people have.
  So I don't understand how I suck up anyones labour. It's the opposite actually, those who didn't try to get education and a decent job are now getting welfare from the state from my progressive taxes.

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