UniversalMonk ban evasion

UniversalMonk has been evading the a ban on him by posting from new accounts on !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net. That's ban evasion, which on most instances leads to an account-level ban, as far as I know. The relevant account is UniversalMonk@lemm.ee.

I'm not sure how to notify admins on lemm.ee, so I'm posting here. If ban evasion justifies an account ban on lemm.ee, then it's time. If there's a better place to send this note, let me know, and I'll do that instead.

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Is having the same username on other instances a ban evasion though?
I was under the impression that a ban evasion would be being banned on an instance, creating an alt name on that instance, then continuing to post on that instance.
I thought the whole fediverse model was based on the fact that if your voice is sileneced on one instance, you could go to another instance. As long as it's not for spamming or trolling.
This is a serious question, not being facetious. I have not been banned on lemm.ee or slrpnk, nor have I posted in !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net after being banned there--in fact i didn't know I was banned there until just now.
I'm not sure what you're meaning. I'm not sealioning, I genuinely don't understand what you are so upset about.
Here are my post logs from both accounts:
https://slrpnk.net/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
https://lemm.ee/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
- Being the same person who was banned, and posting from a new account, is ban evasion.
  You can find a place that can put up with you, if you want to try. That's the sense in which your voice won't be silenced. The same people who've seen what you have to say and want no part of it are not obligated to continue listening to it forever, with you disabling their attempts not to hear from you anymore. That's protecting their rights to use Lemmy as they want to use it.
  
  He will drown everyone in a never ending back and forth about minutiae of the rules while never addressing the obvious and larger issues or his own behavior head on.
  Don’t let him troll you. Communities are better when they don’t focus on trolls. Getting rid of the trolls is an upkeep responsibility like weeding a garden; don’t let them shame you or demand justification for it.
  
  Fully agree. I'm finishing up a few replies to other people who had things to say about it, and then I plan to wash my hands of it.
  
  But I haven't posted to any communites on this instance that I've been banned from.
  Dude, you literally just banned me from your community today and I haven't posted into pleasant politics since then. Under this name or any other name.
  I don't even know why you are so upset! What did I post in pleasant politics that you are so upset about?
  In fact, me using the same username shows that I'm being transparent and not trying to evade bans.
  If I wanted to evade bans, wouldn't I just use a different username in order to hide the fact? I'm not evading anything, nor do I plan to.
  
  The bot banned you from !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net I don't know how long ago. You had a lower rank, after a while, than even Media Bias Fact Check bot. Somehow. That's your violation of the letter of the law.
  I can't even find the entry in the modlog because your record of moderation actions is so extensive that it's almost impossible to make sense of. I seriously tried, and since your account ban and the endless list of deletions and bans people have been giving you, I couldn't find it. It's hard to find stuff for now-deleted accounts, I guess. It's there though. You were banned quite a while ago from !pleasantpolitics@slrpnk.net under the now-deleted account. I can find a date or a moderation record if you want to see it. Anyway, you put yourself in a position to be able to DM people again after being banned for some kind of offense in DMs, and started posting in new politics communities with the exact same stuff after being banned for a pattern of behavior that I would say the mods were excessively generous about, to the point of moderation malpractice. That's your violation of the spirit of the law.
  You did ban evasion both in letter and in spirit. And, you're pretending with an innocent face not to understand how anyone could have a negative reaction to you, when you're clearly aiming for exactly that negative reaction with a lot of your past posts. That's the proactive element that would lead me, if I were an admin, to ban you on sight.
  You need to reevaluate your approach to posting, or else get accustomed to people wanting to ban you. It's the world's most natural reaction to what you like doing.
  
  Thank you for the clarification. So are you saying that I posted to pleasant politics under my .world account? Because I only started this slprnk account recently and I have only posted to your forum once.
  And your "bot" banned me and you don't have a record of when? And your bot doesn't notify people that they are banned, so how would I know?
  The negative reaction you are referring to is because I would post news articles saying that Trump was gaining on Harris. But they were political articles from news sources. And after the election results, the articles I was posting ended up being accurate. And I advocated third parties. Which now many many people on .world are doing.
  My time here on slrpnk has been apolitical and I haven't really posted anything political. And I haven't posted to any other instances from my slrpnk account.
  My slrpnk account is for my fitness, my anarchy and solar interests. Here is my post history from here: https://slrpnk.net/u/UniversalMonk?page=1&sort=New&view=Posts
  I had no idea I was banned from your community. I am fine not posting there. Seriously I had no communication that I was banned from your community until today. I thinks it a great idea for a community, but I am totally fine not posting there.
  I just didn't understand why you were so upset. I have no desire for drama. And I'm happy to just stick to my little fitness community.
  
  Your ban is in the modlog. It's about halfway down, search for "pleasant".
  I'm mostly relying on common sense here. Your participation in previous politics communities was incredibly obnoxious. The issue was never that you were talking about third parties and posting news articles. I don't even know all the details of why you were banned. I think some of it was for DM harrassment or posting fan fiction about other people on Lemmy. Now that you've been banned, you've made new accounts and went looking for new politics communities to start doing the same thing in, while seeking for exact clarifications about the rules that would let you carefully adhere to the letter of them so you could keep doing it, while the overwhelming majority of the community keeps asking you not to.
  I'm not trying to be mean about it, and I'm not upset or anything. If you're interested in changing how you contribute so that you're a net positive to the community, let's talk. If you're planning to continue your current type of contributions, but trying to engineer ways around the rules with multiple accounts or whatever so that you can keep doing it, then the answer is no thank you.
  
  I think some of it was for DM harrassment or posting fan fiction about other people on Lemmy.
  Again, assumption. And no, none of that ever happened. Think about it, if that happened and I am so hated, wouldn't there be ample evidence and screen shots about that? People on that instance hated me with a passion! And I gave you links to the mod log of that community.
  And the "fan fiction" wasn't fan fiction at all. I don't even know where that term came from. lol
  I created a community of creepy pulpy horror tales that tie into Lemmy. I have no idea why anyone would say it was fan fiction or anything of the sort.
  It was me writing fun pulpy horror tales. NONE of it was about anyone specific on Lemmy. I parodied the ATTITUDES of Lemmy. Here's the link to the community: https://sh.itjust.works/c/talesfromthecrypticlemmy
  Your participation in previous politics communities was incredibly obnoxious.
  Which has nothing to do with your community or this instance. People can easily block my name and never see or hear me ever again.
  I’m not trying to be mean about it, and I’m not upset or anything.
  Good to know, maybe I missed the tone in your text. I def took it as you were trying to ban me from this instance, lemm.ee, and sh.itjust.works because of what you thought of my previous behavior on an instance that I was banned from weeks ago. Since you are writing to all of the admins there.
  If you’re interested in changing how you contribute so that you’re a net positive to the community, let’s talk.
  I have already started a community on here. And I may switch my Tales from the Crytpic Lemmy to here as well. Especially after this conversation. And since I am finishing up a horror tale involving a solar power relay.
  But again, I won't be posting to your community, mainly because of all this drama that happened.
  I wish no ill will towards you. I think you have a great community idea. After this experience, I can not say I support your robotic mod though. I doubt I will be the first confused person to run afoul of it.
  But I do wish you the best of luck with it.
  
  I think some of it was for DM harrassment or posting fan fiction about other people on Lemmy.
  Again, assumption. And no, none of that ever happened.
  Modlog, search for "harassing."
  Good to know, maybe I missed the tone in your text. I def took it as you were trying to ban me from this instance, lemm.ee, and sh.itjust.works because of what you thought of my previous behavior on an instance that I was banned from weeks ago. Since you are writing to all of the admins there.
  That is exactly what I was trying to do, yes. Not for your behavior on the previous instances exactly, but for starting up the same behavior from new accounts since you'd already been banned for it, which is against the rules. I think I explained the commonsense reasons also.
  
  Modlog, search for “harassing.”
  And no examples. I still have no clue what they determined to be harassing. I got many nasty dm's and would reply in kind, but I don't see how that is harassing. Plus I'm quite aware that DM's aren't private. But again, their instance and their rules.
  Not for your behavior on the previous instances exactly, but for starting up the same behavior from new accounts since you’d already been banned for it, which is against the rules.
  Which we have already discussed wasn't done on this instance, in your community or any other instance. It's again, your assumption.
  Really, let's just end it here. You obviously think I'm a troll. I disagree. That's ok. Let's agree to disagree.
  I won't be posting to your community, now I know how your bot works, and we can just move on. Thank you.

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