Always Remember: Feelings before facts.

As far as the mod action here go, it signals that this is not a place for actual discussion and shareworthy news.

They are proving that their community is not for learning news and seeing stuff you would not otherwise had know it. This is a community to share only the things we all know/believe in.

The article is by CNN based on about 80 pages report by Dinah Project and shared and discussed by other outlets:

And other outlets.

The conclusion for me here is clear.

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Yes, an independent investigation source would be preferred. This was removed because the investigators were not independent.
- That's a good point too. I was lazy and didn't double check the organisation that ran the investigation.
- What's "independent" .
  I am asking because I shared a lot of times reports( about Israel crimes) from middle east focused entities and no one had told me they are not independent.
  
  What's "independent
  Like amnesty which their reports focus on all crimes regardless who commit it. Amnestry has report about israel, russia , iran, china , hamas etc
  
  Amnesty tried to both sides Ukraine war lol
  
  When they report crimes from both hamas and israel does it mean they both side the genocide? It's job is to report about anybody the agressor and the aggressed, the occupier and the occupied
  
  How does amnesty "remove" abuses?
  What abuses did Ukraine a tuallt commit? Didn't they back track on that once they got called out for being infiltrated by Russia.
  
  I meant report abuses. https://www.amnesty.org/en/latest/news/2022/08/ukraine-ukrainian-fighting-tactics-endanger-civilians
  That doesn't mean they justify russian agression What is your evidence of russian infiltrating it?
  
  https://lieber.westpoint.edu/expert-panels-review-amnesty-internationals-ai-allegations-ukrainian-ihl-violations/
  No direct evidence but the sloppiness of the job they did on that report along with timing and how Russia weaponized I dictats to me that they were politically motivated to rush it out
  
  No direct evidence is no evidence. There is over 500 publications about russian abuses in their website
  Some valid evidences would be something like some employees has tweets blaming ukraine for starting the war oe justify russian war crimes or a group tied to russian giving big donations to amnesty.
  Your claim is so ridiculous
- when was the last time israel allowed independent investigations? they've been blocking those for years. I'm all for independant investigations of both sides, let's get the UN investigators all up in israel's bullshit. not just them, let's get the ICC in there as well to investigate israel and hamas.
  
  Well Israel has had bad experience with “independent” investigations like the Goldstone report for example turning out to be misleading.
  
  lmao "misleading", what a bunch of bullshit. there's a reason israel doesn't allow investigations or journalists into gaza to document. there's a reason israel targets journalists for assassination. they don't want the world to see their crimes against humanity, because their nation relies on welfare from foreign powers since it isn't capable of surviving on its own. if the people of the nations supporting them see that israel is as bad as the nazis, then that welfare gets cut off.

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