bOtH sIdEs ArE tHe SaMe

You're viewing a single thread.

380 comments

Libs are so inspirational with their memes about the inevitability of genocide.
Get out and participate in this system, yall!!! \s
- inspirational with their memes about the inevitability of genocide.
  Inspiration isn't the point here. The point is to show how sitting by and doing nothing is worse. It's an argument, not a fanfic.
  Get out and participate in this system, yall!!! \s
  The system is going to kill, and there is no chance that it is going to stop overnight. The least we can do is ensure it does the least amount of harm possible.
  
  Not pulling the lever is not doing nothing, it's making the best possible choice so that you can then make even better ones.
  
  That "best possible choice" leads to more deaths and more suffering, therefore it isn't the best possible choice.
  
  It is the best possible choice for anyone that has any humanity.
  Many Nazis literally believed that if they didn't kill the Jews their lives would end. They would be killed, Germany would be destroyed etc.
  Their trolley problem as framed is the same as this one. And you're picking the same decision as the rank and file Nazis did, as the reluctant Nazis did.
  The best possible choice is walking away from this false binary an so no everything possible outside this false binary to prevent either track from ever being viable.
  Derail the trolley, burn it down, tear up the tracks, assassinate the conductor and workmen that laid the tracks. Anything is a better choice than choosing to do a genocide.
  
  It is the best possible choice for anyone that has any humanity.
  The human thing to do is reduce death and suffering as much as possible, which doesn't mean doing nothing.
  Many Nazis literally believed that if they didn’t kill the Jews their lives would end. They would be killed, Germany would be destroyed etc.
  And that wasn't true. You're comparing an actual trolly problem with one that is based on falsehood. So this comparison is bullshit.
  And you’re picking the same decision as the rank and file Nazis did, as the reluctant Nazis did.
  I'm not voting for the nazi/gop party. You've got it backwards.
  The best possible choice is walking away from this false binary an so no everything possible outside this false binary to prevent either track from ever being viable.
  And in doing so that leads to more death and suffering.
  Derail the trolley, burn it down, tear up the tracks, assassinate the conductor and workmen that laid the tracks. Anything is a better choice than choosing to do a genocide.
  The whole point of the trolly problem is that the things in motion are on rails. It is intentionally set up to be a true dichotomy. Derailing the trolly/burning it down/etc aren't really options that are on the table. By the time you're able to derail it, it will have run over more people than if we had chosen to reduce harm.
  With that said, I fully support actions like that where they are actually possible. You wanna go fuck up the trolly? Please do. But you're a fool if you think that any such action is always an option, or even a quick option. The overwhelming majority of the population does not see this genocide for what it is, and instead they support Israel. The large scale change that we want to see here will never happen unless the majority change their opinion.
  Your time would be better spent forcing the american/uk/canadian/etc public to see the horrors their governments are doing in their name, and show it to them against their will.

380 comments