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I'll be honest, i do believe we can achieve a middle ground and unity with anarchists
But THESE anarchists to me are psy ops and/or feds
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I don't really think there's a "middle ground" to be found, nor would we want one to exist, it would be like the mythical "middle ground" between capitalism and socialism that the socdems are always talking about. And to paraphrase Lenin, unity is a great thing and a fine slogan but what we need is unity between Marxists, not unity with the opponents of Marxism.
What i believe is that we can manage to get many of the honest anarchists (those who are not wreckers and feds) to actually become communists once they grow up a bit and learn how the world works. In the meantime we can work with them on a case by case basis when we engage in direct action, mutual aid, anti-fascist community defense, etc.
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I've seen some anarchists that are actually very nuanced on MLs, one that even read Stalin and understood us
If we had more anarchists like him he would have no problem.
I'm all about the Mr Rogers approach to Anarchists but the minute they try to convince themselves we are the enemy is where it stops
I keep a personal belief that we can do our part in trying to extend a hand and show ourselves to be good like Lenin showed Kropotkin
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Again, anarchism is not a socialist ideology, it's a selfish, individualistic one, centered either on individual terrorism or pacifist martyrdom.
- What's the difference between anarchism and communism?
- What's the difference in economic structure ( production and distribution) of anarchism, anarcho-communism, anarcho-syndicalism, and Marxist communism?
- Parenti on Anarcho-Syndicalism / Worker-Coops.
- Aimixin - Why Anarchism is fundamentally anti-socialist.
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Not everyone is a fed, this is just a weed addled cracker who has so much privilege coming out of his ass that he thinks his ideas are the greatest thing since sliced bread.
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The thing about these types of anarchists, is they do the FEDs job for them
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No we can't. Look at history.
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And you wanna repeat the bad history
If Kropotkin and Lenin can have a meeting of minds, so can we with the right circumstances
My comment said exactly how, we don't have to deal with these un-nuanced anarchists like these ones in the photo
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If Kropotkin and Lenin can have a meeting of minds, so can we with the right circumstances
But do note that nothing constructive came from those meetings, Kropotkin had misguided notion of the revolution and keep his own stance which was plainly unrealistic in the conditions. Lenin blamed his advanced age for that and was most likely correct.
Also don't forget that Lenin was not the only one having a meeting of minds with Kropotkin, for example this gentelman here is Pavel Milyukov:
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I just feel that we have a common goal I'm not saying we should turn another cheek but bridge a gap, the best we possibly can from our end.
We have to show them by success the success of our movements.
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We've done that, they don't care. They have a failure fetish, since not a single anarchist project has succeeded. Like the reactionaries, they value selfishness, purity and martyrdom over bettering peoples lives materially.
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A wide gulf separates socialism from anarchism, and it is in vain that the agents-provocateurs of the secret police and the news paper lackeys of reactionary governments pretend that this gulf does not exist. The philosophy of the anarchists is bourgeois philosophy turned inside out. Their individualistic theories and their individualistic ideal are the very opposite of socialism. Their views express, not the future of bourgeois society, which is striding with irresistible force towards the socialisation of labour, but the present and even the past of that society, the domination of blind chance over the scattered and isolated small, producer.
– Vladimir Lenin, Socialism and Anarchism
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