Why was this such a surprise?

I've been telling people, if an admin defeds lemmygrad for some smarmy ass lying complete libshit reasons like Ada did, you should have 0 (zero) confidence that she or any other admin who does the same will be willing to engage y'all in good faith and actually work to change their instance, there isn't a single reason to defed lemmygrad that couldn't also be used to defed Hexbear for other than maybe lemmygrad is more sectatarian but that makes up maybe 1% of the content on our comms, or maybe that it's not as outwardly pro-trans*, but then again it's also the only instance in the threadiverse that I'm aware of that specifically makes you give your view on gender as part of it's application to weed out transphobes before they can even make an account (I'm not even sure how many instances even still use applications).

Brigading? I've seen more links dropped in hexbear threads in the like 2 weeks y'all have been federated than I did in 3 months on lemmygrad

Trolling? Y'all literally have an emote of a fucking pig shitting on its own testicles, what trolling can lemmygrad even conjure to compare to that

"being ok with wishing death on the people of Nato" this is the most baffling one, y'all literally have an emote dedicated to this kind of comment that has a nuke symbol and says "Please, Xi" that's used to say that the entirety of the west should be nuked and destroyed which is the exact same of comments made on lemmygrad just without the emote, and that's just the ones that use that emote in particular.

It may look like I'm saying I told you so because, well, I am, I told you so. I would be extremely surprised if that shithead of a mod gets removed, I put it at about the same chances as blahaj refederating with lemmygrad (so never, lol).

*I'm sure lemmygrad could be better in some way about this, but at the same time 11% of our users were trans when we did a survey 2 months ago, which I hope means that it's generally still a good, safe instance for our trans comrades (P.S. WE LOVE OUR TRANS COMRADES)

Edit: some further evidence of shit lib behavior, when she originally defederated lemmygrad it's not like she put effort to remain federated like y'all did, she dropped 2 (two) comments deep in some random ass thread where she called us tankies, this person was never going to put in the same kind of effort that y'all were going to, forgot about this until after I made the post https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 their instance is struggling so here's a screenshot if you can't load them

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idk Ada seemed to genuinely be trying. The comm specific mod yeah sure they can eat the poop off the pigs balls, but idk it feels like the admin was put between a rock and a hard place kinda.
Yeah yeah libshit this and that, but were it not for 196 I'd imagine hexbear would still be federated, and 'grad would never have been defederated in the first place? Maybe I'm giving them too much credit but again, I saw nothing of concern from Ada that couldn't be attributed to having rabid anticommunists in her ear
- https://hexbear.net/comment/3769480
  yeah this doesn't seem that genuine to me. Also, what rock and hard place? just remove the mod for fuck's sake, it's not that hard? and is complaining about wish to death to NATO seriously not bother you? Idk, why even give her any benefit of the doubt in this situation? She certainly didn't seem to deem it necessary to try and work something out with lemmygrad (at least I'm unaware of any communications between her and the lemmygrad admin team) instead of just quietly defederating when she first did it months ago, she basically just announced it buried deep in a thread 2 months ago https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/496688 https://lemmy.blahaj.zone/comment/501598 and called us tankies, she's an anticommunist radlib at best
  
  When that happened it's when I knew I needed to jump ship from that instance lmao what a trainwreck
  
  glad you found your way to hexbear, hope you've enjoyed your time on there
  
  I have, thank you comrade! And being federated with lemmygrad is great, a united front
  
  If she'd reached out to us my response would have been that we'd have to reply to Ada, then Ada would have to reply to us, and then we'd get into an incessant back-and-forth with each of us having to reply to the other. It would be much more to the point to say that Ada is a traitor to the working class and everyone would understand.
  
  P.S. Ada has sent in a silly DM. We shall neither print it nor reply to her.
  
  my response would have been we would have to reply to Ada
  could you clarify the transition I'm a little confused what you're saying here. Good to know that she really did put 0 effort in trying to remain federated though which reinforces my point lol
  
  IIRC it's a Lenin quote where he dismisses Trotsky out of hand for being a loser, more or less
  
  Kautsky, not Trotsky, and that quote being real is debatable since Lenin wrote a lot about Kautsky and it's only attributed to him, there's no actual document written by Lenin that has this quote IIRC.
  
  ah thank you that give me a lot of context and I understand it now, I'm pretty tired I think this is a sign for me to go to bed lol
  
  I think it's something lenin wrote in a letter
  
  ah thank you that give me a lot of context and I understand it now, I'm pretty tired I think this is a sign for me to go to bed lol
  
  would have been that* we would have to reply, that might be clearer.
  
  rip
  
  yeah I wouldn't hold out hope if I were you. Sorry if I came across a little aggressive btw, I re-read my reply and I think I could have worded it less sharply
  
  nah you're good, I can't be across everything lol. She's clearly a shitlib or conflict-averse at best, though from what I saw of her she seemed to value queer solidarity above all.
  Sadly, you can't have solidarity while also appeasing reactionaries
- idk Ada seemed to genuinely be trying.
  You're obviously much more charitable than me, I am no longer willing to give her the benefit of the doubt.
  I could be wrong, but I think she knows exactly what she's doing.
  
  My interpretation is more charitable, but not exactly good. I think she's conflict averse and very aware that c/196 is most of the instance's users/traffic; dicking around with their guy would create her a lot of enemies very quickly, many of which might be enmeshed in her life in one way or another.
  But what would it really matter if any of these interpretations were correct, the actions taken wouldn't change.
  
  But what would it really matter if any of these interpretations were correct, the actions taken wouldn't change.
  Yeah, very true.

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