Asklemmy @lemmy.ml yet_another_commie @lemmygrad.ml 1d ago

Anti-Leninists, what is something you'd like to tell tankies that we actually never heard?

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Tankie is a broad term. Are u just an idealist commie or do u legitimately support genocidal regimes?

I would like you to look into the commonalities in teaching methods between your beliefs/community, religion, neo Nazis, and ideological indoctrination in general. Look at the classic applications such as redefining meanings of words, the complete denial of descenting opinions simply because they are descenting, the belief in something greater than oneself etc etc.

I would like you to write down your most fundamental beliefs then right down your best argument for those beliefs then I want you to write you best argument to disprove that belief.

I would like you to come up with as many contradictions within your own ideology as possible without rationalising that contradictory belief to yourself.

I'd like u to read nineteen eighty four and then write an argument how the practice's of big brother have been used to indoctrinate you. Then right an argument against that argument.

I'm not here to tell you how to live or what to think I'd just like you to legitimately challenge your own thoughts to the best of your ability.

Good luck on your journey to becoming a free thinker.
- I’d like u to read nineteen eighty four and then write an argument how the practice’s of big brother have been used to indoctrinate you.
  
  I'd like you to read Isaac Asimov's review of 1984, followed by Orwell's review of Mein Kampf, and finally the Orwell's list wikipedia article, and then to ponder what you yourself might have been indoctrinated by.
- Isn't 1984 a fictional book?
  
  Have heard people say online that Inventing Reality and Manufactured Consent are better than that for analysis.
  
  Haven't read any of those books tho.
  Which would be better?
  
  1984 was intended as fictional. Eric Blair wrote it in 1948.
  
  I'm not sure that it is anymore.
  
  His books are all pretty good. "Down and out in Paris and London" (or is it London and Paris? It's been a minute) is one of my favourites.
  
  Don't you mean George Orwell?
  
  And yes, it's fictional, but it's a condemnation of Stalinism.
  
  George Orwell's real name was Eric Blair.
  
  Blair was a communist, from what I remember, but started to see what socialism was really like and gradually reverted his attitude.
  
  Animal Farm is along the same line but an easy read for kids.
  
  Racist, imperial cop, rapist, worker hating, Eric Blair? That guy?
  
  I know he started as a communist/socialist but began to change his mind over time.
  
  His books changed their political leanings over time; for my interpretation at least.
- Meh if you want a good critique of the Bolsheviks by somebody who actually was an old Bolshevik check out the book We instead.

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