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Ok, I don't disagree with the spirit of this, but I've never understood how protests are supposed to work.
Step 1) Protest.
Step 2) ??????
Step ???) The bad behavior stops.
Ok, so walk me through the steps, and tell me what I'm missing. I support Luigis method. I've just never seen a protest work, and I'm not even sure what you're aiming for without violence and death.
Even the french revolution didn't immediately solve things, but at least they removed one set of corruption. They just had such a corrupt culture at the time that it bled over to the new guard too.
But please, walk me through this.
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Protests are a first step not a last. They serve multiple purposes, here's just a couple
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Organizers of the protests quite often gain members of whatever group they are from it. They have clipboards, QR codes, etc. to get people to signup for mailing lists & work on other action
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They are a lightning rod to get people to engage. If you've never been to a mass protest it's hard to really express how much they make you feel not alone and that others are just as pissed as you are. Want to start other action like mass boycotts or strikes? Now you have more people willing to join
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They also let people who are upset and within system know they are not alone in pushing back. Makes them more willing to fight back and not roll over if they know others will support them. This is true at all levels of government - not just federal
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Protests can be an implied threat. Consider that when a state is resisted violently, a certain number of people is generally required for that effort to have a shot at success. When protests gain large enough numbers, there's an implication of "we have all these people angry about this thing. Imagine what might happen if they were to stop being peaceful".
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https://lemmy.world/comment/15160640
Protests are part of the first few boxes. Luigi dipped into the fourth box. We need to be doing a bit of all four in order to overwhelm the opposition
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I like this guy. But also,
Step 1) - Protest
Step 2) - ???
Step 3) - ???
Step 4) - Luigi.
Ok, but whats step 2 and 3?
And is there a step 5? Because Luigi seems like a good start, but we've already seem that 1 Luigi doesn't fix things.
However the next day, United Healthcare said that they had reconsiddered their proposal to stop covering the cost of anestesia. Not because of a shortage, or any reasonable cause. It's just they thought they could make more money by charging thousands of dollars for it.
You're going to get surgury. Are you going to pay for the thing to not hurt? Or are you going to feel them slice you open?
And what if your healthcare doesn't cover it, and you can't afford $4,000 right now? Guess you'll have to feel the knife.
Then Luigi happens and suddenly United Healthcare is like "Were WE saying we weren't going to cover that? No! Not us! We would never! That's crazy talk is what that is, mister!"
Then behind closed doors saying "These fuckers aren't playing around no more! Maybe call off the suffering for profit."
"The whole thing?"
"Oh god no! We can't afford to stop profiting from others suffering! That's our whole business model! No, I just meant the anestesia thing. Lets cool off on that for now, circle back around to it in a few years after things cool down a bit."
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Did you read the comment at all? They're not steps they're boxes. We're doing all of them. We need to be doing a little more 4, but we have to do all of them in order to overwhelm the opposition.
They need to be busy fighting lawsuits and losing money to strikes while also looking out for guerilla combatants. The war already started.
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You have to understand an aspect of human psychology for protests to make sense: We have this misconception that we get inspired, and then inspiration causes us to act. That's rare. Just ask anybody who's ever procrastinated. Much more reliably, we act, and action generates inspiration. Marketers, scammers, and other abusers know this—if you can get a person to do some small action, you've got an 'in', and you can get them to escalate.
So, if you can get people to get off of the couch to go to a protest, that's the first step. Now they're much more likely to take more actions in the future, and increase their commitment to the cause. Plus, people who might be in a position to act are much more likely to do so, if they feel that they have a lot of support from throngs of protesters.
At the very least, protests are just a way for the marchers to avoid sitting at home and sinking into despair, which is not nothing.
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