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You're also making assumptions though. And like pointed out elsewhere, mentioning Tiananmen Square still gets silenced so we're kinda forced to assume one way or another and I generally don't believe the state that is doing the silencing. That's not racist and it's messed up to jump to that accusation so quickly
- No it doesn't. It's called the 6/4 event there. Do you EVEN KNOW WHAT HAPPENED?
  Tiananmen Square https://threadreaderapp.com/thread/1797650356727665115.html The US literally funding the propagation of fake Tiananmen square massacre pics
  https://www.cecc.gov/sites/chinacommission.house.gov/files/documents/roundtables/2002/CECC%20Roundtable%20Testimony%20-%20Sharon%20Hom%20-%204.15.02.pdf
  Actual footage from Tiananmen square as covered by the CPC
  https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=g8dqOuHqcBQ
  https://youtu.be/7bl_cyYHwNQ
  Explanation of what happened https://worldaffairs.blog/2019/06/02/tiananmen-square-massacre-facts-fiction-and-propaganda/
  Tankman full vid
  https://youtu.be/GRb4VY2dU4c
  
  There's a concerning amount of gaslighting going on in this thread. There absolutely was and is silencing going on around Tiananmen Square: https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/1989_Tiananmen_Square_protests_and_massacre#Contemporary_issues
  
  What about the Tiananmen square massacre?
  Notes for the 30th anniversary of the Tiannment incident.
  It wasn't a massacre of peaceful students, but a skirmish between PLA soldiers and armed detachments from the pro-capitalist / free market reform movement. The protest movement, as evidenced by their own accounts, called for market liberalisation, and free market reforms, rallying around a replica of the statue of liberty. After the movement had been building in the square for seven weeks, unarmed soldiers were sent in to disperse the protesters, after which many soldiers were beaten to death, torched, and lynched. The New York Times death count went from 2600, to many thousands, to 8000, to tens of thousands. In reality only around ~200 (including soldiers) were killed or trampled, in smaller clashes outside the square. The on-scene New York Times reporter disavowed the article, especially about machine-gunning of protesters. A wikileaks cable from a US ambassador to the US state department, confirmed that no killings or machine-gunnings took place in the square.
  Latin American diplomat eyewitness account of June 3-4 events on Tiananmen Square wikileaks (PDF)
  There was a Spanish television crew that covered the entire Tiananmen Square incident as it unfolded. Their footage showed that there was no massacre. A few things worthy of pointing out - Liu Xiaobo and Hou Dejian, both student leaders of the Tiananmen protests, have been recorded as saying that they never saw anyone killed at the protests.
  The protest movement followed the line of "color revolutions", in which the US tried to destabilize and create counter-revolutions in eastern Europe and Latin America after the fall of the USSR. The strategy was to stir division within and without, by inundating the media with news of massacres of "peaceful", pro-capitalist / market reformers.
  The defeat of a counter revolution in China.
  Interviews from some of the student leaders.
  An account from a resident.
  Tiananmen Square "Massacre", A Propaganda Hoax.
  The truth about the Tiananmen square protests
  
  You understand my claim is that there topic gets censored right? None of that is even attempting to be evidence to the contrary. I guess you're trying to say they're stomping down on lies spreading? That's still censorship and I am still highly sceptical of a state that does that. It's so weird that you want to eat that up. You weren't there. You have to, again like I said, make assumptions about which sources to believe
  
  Anyone can search for the june 4th incident there, its not censored. You've been eating up western propaganda for their failed color revolution.
  
  Fine, from Red Notes very own eula, your can't:
  distorts national history and historical figures, harms national feelings, and undermines national unity;
  You cannot disagree with the states narrative
  
  There’s a concerning amount of gaslighting, so here’s a NATOpedia link.
  
  Well you're clearly a nato spy doing a counter psyop so I can ignore anything you say too. See how dumb that sounds?

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What about the Tiananmen square massacre?