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If it is common knowledge that shutting a garage door with a running ICE vehicle inside will kill you, why do you think so many people think 1 billion ICE vehicles aren't bad in the atmosphere?

"But tires"

Ban all vehicles over 5000lbs to start without a specialized license and extremely heavy fees to have them. EVs are dropping in weight daily, ICE vehicles have been increasing in weight to dodge policies. One is a means to an end, the other is a means to profit.

Profit for few vs humanity's existance.. which should we choose?

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im gonna hazard a really basic proposition.
The volume of the earths atmosphere is perhaps, just a little bit bigger than the volume of approximately 1 billion garages.
If you're going to shitpost about science, at least be accurate about it. Nobody thinks they "aren't bad" that's literally a fallacious argument to even propose. Sure, toxic chemicals are bad for you, but there are FDA defined limits for how much of them is considered to be safe on an annual basis.
also, "banning" larger heavier vehicles is based.
- So how much carbon monoxide turning into CO2 and building up in the atmosphere and causing the earths temperature to slowly rise and threaten the ecosystems of the majority of earth does the FDA define as okay?
  
  Cars don't typically produce carbon monoxide. It's special circumstances caused by the garage that caused the carbon monoxide
  
  this is definitely a good point.
  restricted or incomplete combustion has really negative side effects. Notably, more pollution.
  
  Isn't the main purpose of the catalytic converter to minimize the CO (and other chemicals) being exhausted? Those illegal to take off vehicles things on every car....
  It is supposed to be CO2 and water though that comes out of it.. but it doesn't work out so clean as the air going in isn't just oxygen
  
  That is what they're supposed to do.
  \ But you're talking about an operating environment way outside of what they were designed for.
  ICE cars suck.
  \ But cars aren't driving around the road and spewing out CO in such concentration that'd they'd give someone CO poisoning.
  Pick a different example about why ICE cars clearly suck.
  
  The CO becomes CO2 in the atmosphere as well eventually. I understand what you mean, which is why I was going to originally delete the post, but some people said leave it, so I did. Really it is just saying if exhaust is so obviously known to be bad in one situation, why is it so hard to understand that it can be bad in other ways. (Trapping in heat really)
  
  I kinda get what you mean, in that sense. "It's bad here so why can't you believe it's bad there?"
  But the dangers they pose are so different in nature that it's inviting criticism; lots of things are dangerous in specific circumstances but fine normally.
  Anyways, you're taking the criticism better than I'm able to lol
  
  It was a drunken post on New Year's Eve... If I know anything in life it's that alcohol does not make sound choices lol. I suppose I'm just glad I didn't text an ex. Motivation not to drink as much haha
  
  im gonna hazard a little guess, and say they don't define this, because this would be like the FDA having recommended estimates for how many hurricanes you can consume within approximately a year, as that would be a rather silly statistic. They probably don't do that one.
  Little known fun fact, the FDA is actually short hand for "food and drug administration" if you're concerned about like, global warming you should ask someone else like NASA. Which handles things related to the atmosphere. There would also be NOAA, which more directly handles the atmosphere, that's kind of it's job, you should probably ask them.
  
  The FDA requires me to eat 4 hurricanes a year, with a side of has browns, haha
  (I think it's the CDC that does regulations on carbon monoxide though)
  
  im guessing OSHA probably has a few also. Most definitely some health agency, though i wouldn't be surprised if the FDA did have something pertaining to carbon monoxide, more generically. They have a lot of weird ones.
  
  EPA I assume as well. Lots of letter factories out there
- A very, very rough estimate is that the atmosphere is 6,000,000,000,000,000 times larger than a typical garage (or over 6 orders of magnitude more than OP's claim), based on a typical one-car garage being 100 cubic meters and The atmosphere being 6e9 cubic kilometers.

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