1w ago

What successful or popular movie that many loved you just HATE?

Rules: explain why

Ready player one.

That has to be one of the cringiest movies I've seen, is tries so hard, too hard with it's "WE LOVE YOU NERD, YOU'RE SO COOL FOR PLAYING GAMES AND GETTING THIS 80S REFERENCE" message and the whole "corporation bad, the people good" narrative seems written for toddlers... The fan service feels cheap and adds nothing to the story.

Finally, they trying to make the people believe that very attractive girl with a barely visible red tint spot on her face is "ugly"... Like wtf?

Yet it received decent reviews plus being one of the most successful movies of that year.

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ITT: people using the downvote button as an "I disagree" button when the entire point is to name popular movies that you dislike. Sort by controversial for the real answers, I guess.
For me it's Alien. Maybe because I'm not a horror movie buff, but I do like sci-fi and yet it just didn't really do anything for me. I somehow found Prometheus to be more engaging.
- Oh wow, complete opposite here - I thought Prometheus was hot garbage.
  "Hey everybody, let's just remove our helmets in this totally unvetted environment, we're all scientists but trust me, this is supes safe!"
  "Aw look at the little alien snake, so cute, better get real close!"
  "I'm clearly showing symptoms of exposure to some alien pathogen, but let's just hide it from the entire crew, including my girlfriend, who I will be fucking."
  "Oh, a huge ring is rolling toward me and I'm gonna get crushed, better keep running in a straight line!"
  I mean, come on.
  
  I’m clearly showing symptoms of exposure… let’s hide it
  After seeing how people acted during the pandemic, that part is probably the most realistic.
  
  See also, every zombie movie ever. There's always someone who got bitten but decided to say nothing until it was too late.
  
  Both can be true.
  I never watched alien growing up, and only half-watched it with a girlfriend (sorry, good movies are great but... Boobs vs stereotypical teenager watching a movie....)
  By the time I watched the movie fully, it just held no scare factor for me.
  And so many dumb choices were made in Prometheus, it's hard to take the people seriously when everyone is acting like children who have never been in space or a dangerous situation before.
  
  Aw look at the little alien snake, so cute, better get real close!
  The same can be said when in Alien the scientist shoves his face close to what is clearly a moving egg that responded to him as he got closer.
  
  There were no scientists in Alien. It's a bunch of space truckers and they're infinitely more competent than the hand picked group in Prometheus.
  
  Ah, shows how much I know about the film, thank you for correcting me
  
  This is Ash erasure, and I won't have it.
- angry upvote
  But honestly, fair. Alien is a 50-year-old movie, so when viewed with a modern lens it might not seem to be anything special.
  Part of the legendary status of Alien is just how influential it has been. Before Alien, a horror-scifi movie would be some schlock about flying saucers piloted by men in gorilla masks terrorizing Hollywood. Audiences certainly weren't expecting a psychosexual thriller about forced oral insemination and mpreg.
  And the android! Robots in movies were walking vending machines, and yet the robot in Alien is just some guy until he starts to malfunction. Plus in the context of the franchise, it makes you distrust every single android in each subsequent movie, and might even leave you guessing who else in the cast could be a robot in disguise.
  Other movies have done it better since then. We all stand on the shoulders of giants after all. And the funny thing is, a lot of the time when you look back at the movies that spawn the tropes, they don't seem that impressive because they haven't been totally refined yet.
  I have a soft spot for Alien, it's my favorite in the franchise. It relies so heavily on practical effects, it's got those retro-futuristic computers which I adore, and the smart woman saves the day (sort of) after all the dumb men tell her she's wrong. And yet despite what I just said, I don't think anyone is actually very dumb, the characters are all quite human and I understand and relate to their motivations.
  It's a movie that feels far more modern than it is. You might even forget that it's fifty years old until you see that explosive finale in gloriously bad 70's CGI
  I also liked Prometheus. It's not the best in the franchise but it's certainly not the worst, and it doesn't deserve as much hate as it gets in the community
  
  I was with you until you implied Prometheus was likeable because at least it's not the worst.
- I loved how Alien brought together horror and science fiction. If it didn't do anything for you, as you admit that you're not into horror, then fair enough.
  Now, I'll throw in here that I can't abide Aliens. To me, it betrayed the horror elements of Alien, making it more akin to some dumb action movie with some added schmaltz thrown in. Unlike many, I actually consider Alien3 the better film than Aliens (certainly not Alien), in that it does try to bring back the horror elements and darkness in a different way. Still, I can understand why many deride that film. The Assembly Cut does make amends, and is possibly worth watching if you didn't care about the theatrical version.
  
  I do really think the horror is what kills it for me, just not my genre of choice. And it's not that I'm against things being scary, but I just never vibe with the format of most horror films. Same with horror games.
  I also do see all of the faults that people pointed out with Prometheus, and I'm not going to really call that movie "good" either. But I think what makes it appeal to me a bit more is the worldbuilding. Alien is more understated and throws you into a well-imagined sci-fi universe that leaves a lot to be inferred, but Prometheus has a lot more of the "grand worldbuilding" type of atmosphere to it that had me really interested in what I was actually seeing.
- FWIW I'm using the downvote button as a "You didn't explain", "That's a band not a movie", "That's a show not a movie", "That's a genre of animation, not a movie" button ;p I'm definitely clicking it far more often that I typically do =p
  It's wild how many people can write but not read.
- Speaking of downvotes, I don't think comments in a moderated forum should even have a downvote button. Every situation where a comment can be legitimately downvoted, like spam or bigotry or trolling, the comment should just be reported and removed by a moderator, instead.
  People's intuition about downvoting is simply that it's the opposite of an upvote because that's how it is presented in the UI. That might make sense for articles, but not for comments.
  
  You didn't list one of the main uses of a downvote: lowering the visibility of poorly made or unfitting content. If you believe that a post or comment does not contribute to or belong in the community or discussion, your only recourse in most places is to downvote. Yeah ideally mods would remove every such post but that ignores the fact they are few in number, often absent, and generally follow their rules to the letter instead of moderating on vibes.
  
  If it's poorly made, then you're supposed to simply upvote other comments if they're better.
  If a comment is unfitting, then it is off-topic and can be removed by mods.
  I honestly think comment downvotes should be disallowed, or if that isn't possible, then the users who downvote each comment should be easy to find, like with a "click to expand and list downvoters" sort of link. I think you'd find downvoters to be mostly trolls and non-participators. Low value accounts.
  
  To me, though, that sounds like calling the police to resolve a mild disagreement. It just escalates situations more than needed and creates drama where things could have otherwise been settled quietly by simply letting the content be buried and ignored.
  I believe in using best judgment with downvotes and not simply using it as an "I disagree" button (which is why I did not downvote your comments, as some inconsiderate people seem to have done), but I do believe they have a place. They're a form of community self-moderation that help keep discussions on topic and civil. I only really use the report button for content that I actually feel is somehow dangerous or detrimental that needs to be removed.
  But I also do completely understand the instances out there that do choose to remove the downvote button entirely (check out blahaj.zone for one option if that's what you're looking for), and I know that is a preferable way for many to use Lemmy. I have an alt on blahaj myself, but I prefer being on instances with downvotes because it's nice to see bigoted/heinous content be buried when moderators don't or refuse to step in.
  
  I think they're downvoting my comments to try to be funny in this particular situation.
  If people used the downvote like you suggest, it would be less of a problem. But speaking of policing, there is no real policing of votes. There's just a button.
  You give people a downvote button, and they'll simply go through threads going up, down, up, down, up, down. It's like they double their vote and it drowns out any more ethical downvotes. It hasn't happened much on Lemmy, but it happens as a matter of course on Reddit. It will eventually be here, too, if Lemmy continues to grow. There is nothing to stop it.
  Besides, apart from your point about essentially unmoderated areas, I think the upvote button is enough to achieve all the goals you listed. And if it's unmoderated, it's going to become unusably toxic no matter how people vote.
  
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