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Which CEOs are actually worth keeping around?

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CEO of Ben &Jerry's. They are not just posting the black square on their insta and then moving on, like half their posts are about fighting inequity, encouraging people to vote for actual human rights, openly pro abortion, pro immigrant rights, pro black rights, pro women's right, about fighting climate change etc. they are walking the walk, conservative dollars be damned
- Also AFAIK they are one of the few companies that have been removed from the BDS list after improving behavior and leaving illegal Palestinian settlements. Recently they sued their parent company for silencing their statements on Palestinian rights.
  I don’t love ever setting any people or corporations on a pedestal. Nevertheless this is reassuring behavior to see amidst all the Starbucks, AirBnB and Re/Maxes of the world.
- Adding my vote of confidence to them
- It's a shame they don't fully move to vegan ice cream
  Edit: When the very base ingredient of their ice cream is based on exploitation and torture, how much are their initiatives really worth? It's virtue signalling at its best
  Plus I'm yet so see someone giving a valid reason as to why they shouldn't. Just tell me you don't care and I'll move along
  
  Why should they? I have no problem with people being vegan and I have no problem with vegan food being provided as an option but I don't think vegans have the right to dictate to everyone else how they live their lives.
  
  A. Ben & Jerry’s moving to exclusively vegan ice cream is in no way forcing people to live their lives a certain way. Recipes are not protected by copyright law so anyone can make and sell ice cream however they want.
  B. The dairy industry wreaks havoc on the planet. It would benefit everyone if the dairy industry disappeared or at least shrank
  
  It would be forcing people who prefer Ben & Jerry’s to either have vegan ice cream (which may not be their preference) or switch to another brand (which also may not be their preference). What you're saying is that you want people to have fewer options.
  
  Would it be accurate to rephrase your argument like this?
  “Ben & Jerry’s changing all their recipes to use only vegan ingredients would be anti-freedom”
  
  If you want to make an argument against that, you can do that in your head. You seem to be good at making up things you want other people to say, so you don't need me for your imaginary argument.
  
  You could just say “no.” I was curious how far your logic would go because you said, and I quote, “it would be forcing people who prefer Ben & Jerry’s to either have vegan ice cream or switch to another brand”
  Like, dude, come on. You have to hear how ridiculous that sounds. Nobody is forcing anybody to eat ice cream. And also, though this is just coming from my experience, I’ve never met anyone who exclusively likes Ben & Jerry’s. Bad ice cream is almost always better than no ice cream so I would challenge you to find someone who would be upset about needing to eat ice cream that was created by any brand other than Ben & Jerry’s.
  
  Humans are literally forcing animals to live and die by their life styles. The only ones forcing anybody here are humans.
  There is no sound reason as to why B&J doesn't fully move away from non-vegan ice cream. They've proven that they can produce vegan flavours, that they cost them the same (probably less even), that they taste well enough for them to remain among the flavours they offer. It's just stigma and prejudice that leads to people shutting off completely when veganism is even mentioned.
  Realistically, like be frank with yourself for a second and don't resort to a kneejerk reaction: would you mind if your ice cream was vegan? It's a luxury item, it's a sweet, so it's not essential. Most sweets you eat are vegan already. What's one more? Plus, you end up helping a bunch of animals.
  
  Okay but that's something you care about.
  What we're talking about is finding the lowest common denominator of what can be considered acceptable by the general populace, It is not about becoming the best version of ourselves.
  Let's not muddy the waters by making this about something other than basic human decency.
  
  That would be an absolute disaster.
  
  Why?
  
  vegan icecrean is apparently terrible.... said no one ever
  
  There aremore very bad milk-substitute ice creams than bad regular ice creams. It may be the age of the market, though.

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