'Twas the night before PCmas
Cooler didn't arrive until after dinner. If I were twenty years younger I'd have stayed up all night. đ
As I suspect a lot of people are doing, I'm going to keep using my existing graphics card until RTX 5000 series drops in January. Everything else is new, though. First build in seven years.
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One of the most exciting times owning a computer for me is where you are right now. When everything arrives, and it's still in all the fancy packaging, and you're mapping out the build in your mind. I can't tell from the picture, which CPU did you get?
Edit: can you believe HDD these days? I'm still amazed every time I pull an NVMe HDD out of the packaging. Absolutely mind-blowing. My first computer had an spinning drive connected through molex and IDE cables.
My first computer didn't have hard drive at all. 5.25" floppy drives.
My first PC with a hard drive used an ST-506 interface w/molex and data and control cables. 40MB. I couldn't imagine ever filling the whole thing.
It's all so much easier now.
Damn, I'm old.
Oh yeah, I meant the first computer I built myself from scratch. My actual first computer was a Commodore 64, and then an IBM clone 386, and eventually a powerhouse 486. It's mind-blowing how far things have advanced, especially if you consider things like ChatGPT, which is essentially the Star Trek computer actualized in the real world.
I would trust an answer that The Enterprise, DS9 or even Voyager's cranky computer, gave me. I don't trust LLMs not to lie to me.
Yup pretty wild. We've come a long way. CPU is a 9800x3D.
Very nice!
I almost got pissed for about 5 seconds the first time I ordered a new SSD and thought they shipped me RAM. Mind completely blown. I was showing the thing to my friends for a couple of hours, just asking, "you know what a Hard Drive looks like? Check this out! That tiny thing is a freaking 2 TB SDD!"
My first computer was either the Mac 128k or the Apple ]|[
FYI: HDD is short for hard drive. So calling an SSD a hard drive doesn't make a lot of sense since they are by definition different things.
Calling an SSD a hard drive makes sense but calling it a HDD doesn't because HDD means hard disk drive and an SSD doesn't have disks
Huh, I always thought it stood for hard drive device, which can be used universally. It's still easier to type HDD on a phone keypad than hard drive though, which is why I used it.
Nah, just call an SSD an SSD (or solid-state drive if you got lots of time and like being overly verbose) or just storage device or similar synonym.
A hard disk drive is called that because it contains hard disks as opposed to earlier storage mediums which often had soft (or floppy) disks. Hard drive is just a shorter and easier way to say hard disk drive.
Hard doesn't refer to the fact that the outer shell is hard, because of course it is.
So since SSDs don't contain any disks, it doesn't make a lot of sense to call them hard when they are in fact nonexistent.
Never said anything bout shells. The definition of hard drives predates SSDs, back then you had soft media like a floppy disk and tapes, so by it's original definition, an SSD is a hard drive. Ofc nowadays we had to accommodate for the changes and there is little reason to say just hard drive since soft media is not widely used anymore
Why are you just repeating what I said? Of course the definition of hard disk drives (and thus hard drives) predats SSDs. That's why SSDs aren't referred to as hard drives. Hard disk drives are called that because their disks are hard.
Please show me your "original definition" because I don't come to the same conclusion.
"Hard drive" is just a quicker and easier way to say "hard disk drive". I honestly don't think I have ever heard someone actually say "hard disk drive" everyone shortens it to "hard drive". "Hard drive" = "hard disk drive" "Hard drive" != Any non soft storage media.
You could call SSDs, "solid drives" if you like, but they for sure aren't hard drives even if people often confuse the two.
Also I'm just curious, do you call CDs or vinyls hard disks? I mean they store data and they are technically hard disks (or discs, whichever spelling you prefer).
Merriam webster defines it in the same way and according to them that was how it was defined in 1982 when the word first came into use: https://www.merriam-webster.com/dictionary/hard%20drive#h1
a data-storage device consisting of a drive and one or more hard disks
The only definition I could find where hard drive means anything else is from the Cambridge dictionary "learners dictionary" https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/learner-english/hard-drive
the part inside a computer that is not removed and stores very large amounts of information
Their normal dictionary has the same definition as everybody else: https://dictionary.cambridge.org/us/dictionary/english/hard-drive
a part of a computer that reads information on a hard disk, or a separate device that can be connected to a computer in order to do this
I guess you didn't search hard enough?
https://www.britannica.com/technology/hard-disk
"In addition to referring to the disks themselves, the term hard disk is also used to refer to the whole of a computerâs internal data storage. Beginning in the early 21st century, some personal computers and laptops were produced that used solid-state drives (SSDs) that relied on flash memory chips instead of hard disks to store information."
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Hard_Drive
"Hard Drive may also refer to:
Solid-state drive, a computer storage device that has no moving parts"
https://experience.dropbox.com/resources/what-is-a-hard-drive
"What is an SSD?
SSDs (solid state drives) are the newer of the type of hard drive. They have become the preferred format for high-end laptopsâ internal hard drives, and all smartphones and tablets also use a form of SSD."
Back when hard drive was first used, it meant any non-volatile type of storage that was 'hard', I was literally there. When people talked about HD, they meant computer storage since HD tvs werent even a thing. Now go relax man, no need to get all fussed about this simple discussion, you started this just because I said that calling an SSD a hard drive isnt wrong, which it isnt, but calling if HDD is because that implies a disk, thats all.
Yeah I searched for the definitions not some blog posts bruh. Are those the original definitions you were talking about?
Of course "Hard drive" can refer to other things. It's just incorrect in the same way refering to a SSD as a HDD is wrong. Wikipedia is just helpful.
you started this just because I said that calling an SSD a hard drive isnt wrong, which it isnt, but calling if HDD is because that implies a disk, thats all.
Yeah, because you are wrong mate. Just teach people the corrent terms instead. It isn't hard. It's literally 3 letters. People use the wrong terms all the time and that's obviusly fine when you were a kid, but don't spread it into the modern age.
Yeah I searched for the definitions not some blog posts bruh. Are those the original definitions you were talking about?
Encyclopedia Britannica is a blog post? The one that exists since 1768? Alright man, have fun winning arguments in your head, you are delusional.
You didn't link to the actual dictionary like I did. You linked to an article.
Here is the dictionary: https://www.britannica.com/dictionary/hard-drive
It would be HD if it was hard drive.
A hard disk drive (HDD), hard disk, hard drive, or fixed disk[a] is an electro-mechanical data storage device
Don't even try, that guy clearly gets off on being pedantic and hates to be wrong instead of trying to learn something new. Which is funny cause he didnt even know what HDD is short for.
Why are you starting a new thread. Join the existing or something instead. This has been addressed.
Of course I know what HDD means. I work in IT. I just shorted it because it's easier to understand, write, and say. I have already proved multiple times with multiple dictionaries that "Hard drive" is the same as "Hard disk drive".
Either way it doesn't matter, the point was that you shouldn't call SSDs HDDs.