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"Democrats better get their shit together before the 2028 election," says adorable friend who thinks there's going to be a 2028 election

thebeaverton.com "Democrats better get their shit together before the 2028 election," says adorable friend who thinks there's going to be a 2028 election

Kincardine, ON – Local man Allan Terry has expressed his belief that the Democrats need to improve their messaging and policy efforts if they want to win the next Presidential election, charmingly revealing that he thinks there will be another fair and free Presidential election in his lifetime. “Cl...

"Democrats better get their shit together before the 2028 election," says adorable friend who thinks there's going to be a 2028 election

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Obviously they’ll run the election Russian-style, as Americans still like to think of themselves as free.
- What's wrong with a one party system? It's only one less then two! You wouldn't want to confuse the voters would you? /$
  
  That's our secret, Cap... they're always confused.
- they’ll run the election Russian-style
  Why didn't they just do this in 2018?
  
  Do you think the GOP - and trump's camp specifically - have gotten more or less extreme/vengeful in the last four years? After the 2020 loss, have they gotten more or less friendly toward the norms of a democratic system of government?
  
  Do you think the GOP - and trump’s camp specifically - have gotten more or less extreme/vengeful in the last four years?
  I think I heard this line back in 2004 when Bush beat Kerry. Today is always The Worst and history is always not so bad in hindsight really. But so much of the modern shit show can be traced back to the right-wing gerrymanders from 2005, pushed through under DeLay's "Permanent Republican Majority" plan alongside his K-Street project.
  After the 2020 loss, have they gotten more or less friendly toward the norms of a democratic system of government?
  Given how brutally they bludgeoned the Dems this year, I'd say they've gotten significantly better at winning democratic competitions. I don't think they're going to be shy about running the exact same Musk-powered scheme in 2026, fully convinced they have the numbers to win the old fashioned way.
  
  Thank you for the reply: because we can go back even further to Hunter S Thompson with Fear and Loathing on the campaign trail 72, where he makes the same observation about every election cycle being "the big one".
  It's just that I do think the GOP has gotten more extreme in many ways, and the right wing media sphere is a major part of that. At least in my experience over the last few decades. Looking back at what the John Birch folks said back then, it's a lot more mainstream. Just some of the demographic groups targeted are different
  As for the elections: it's going to be interesting, since you're absolutely correct...the right showed up to vote, and enough of the Democrats stayed at home that the GOP might take that as a sign they don't need to ratfuck so much. I'm just not as confident that the anti democratic sentiment isn't just rhetoric meant for political theatre. Hopefully I'm wrong, but the mainstream right seems to be trending toward authoritarian more than libertarian these days.
  
  the GOP has gotten more extreme in many ways
  They ate the Dixiecrats, who were already openly white nationalist. But it's the same extremism, just migrated from one party to the other by way of the oil and automotive industry barons.
  Looking back at what the John Birch folks said back then, it’s a lot more mainstream.
  The Birchers were mainstream. They got Goldwater in '68 and Reagan in '80. The Tea Party and the MAGA movement can trace straight lines back to Bircher organizers and funders.
  I’m just not as confident that the anti democratic sentiment isn’t just rhetoric meant for political theatre.
  The problem is that most of the damage is already done. The VRA has been shredded. House seats are heavily gerrymandered. Systematic disenfranchisement is institutionalized. Media is captured by corporate interests loyal (or at least amenable) to the party. There's not a whole lot left to dismantle. Republicans have heavily entrenched, functionally unassailable state level majorities across the country.
  The real threats the GOP face are from within - business and paleocon wings feuding over orthodoxy like 12th century Popes.
  And democracy at least keeps this kind of fighting civil. Which is its purpose. Give people a non-violent outlet for civic participation, but limit the terms of debate to what the elites desire.
  Nobody currently winning wants that system to change.
- It already was before then. But before the only definite winner was Israel since both parties seem to prioritize it over anything else.
  
  You cant even talk about this stuff on a lemmy forum anymore without being habara-ed.
  A key part of getting democracy back on track needs to be around eliminating corrupting bribes by lobbying groups like AIPAC. until we do that, we wont end up with any sort of democracy.
  
  Wild that anyone would disagree with eliminating lobbyists but there it is.
  
  Its probably bots that downvote any post with the strings 'hasbara' or 'AIPAC' in it. Forbidden topics in a lot of the west anymore.

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