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I have to remind myself that the only silver lining of being Californian and unable to really effect this outcome of this race is that we're also least likely to pay any personal consequences. Still bad, but I feel for people in states with less protections for LGBTQ and immigrants, and especially for people in countries that are completely fucked right now unless something crazy happens.
I know already that my state and several other blue states have been working on a contingency plan ever since Biden looked like a certain loss, months back. Then again, might make little difference if he goes full fascist, but a silver lining is a silver lining none the less.
- Over here in Florida where they're banning books and censoring LGBT from schools. All my family (besides my parents and siblings) are Republicans and are actively voting to the person who is trying to legalize murdering me (trans, closeted) 🙃
  My teacher is also an anti masker.
  Send help pls.
  
  When you're 18, you're more than welcome in the New Mexico/Colorado coalition. New Mexico is more affordable, FYI. Until then, there are good people on Lemmy you can lean on.
  
  I noticed that... Redder than ever as I watched the polls. I guess at least it'll be under the ocean in a few decades. Amazing how it changed since 2000, though. My PhD is in education policy, and also someone who dated a trans woman, I know exactly how fucked y'all are.
  If only California could fix it's housing issues, we really should be a refuge for cool folk like yourself. People used to flock here, for better or worse.
  
  Hardly anyone can afford to live in the progressive parts unfortunately.
  
  It's true. Some places are affordable but won't be terribly enjoyable unless a lot of progressives move there (like Bakersfield isn't the worst place in the world).
  Edit: on two separate occasions I saw cars wrapped in full anime weeb regalia parked in places in Bakersfield. It's just mostly immigrant farm workers, though.
- ...my state and several other blue states have been working on a contingency plan ever since Biden looked like a certain loss, months back.
  Can you expand on this, in eli5 fashion? Curious foreigner here.
  
  Oh that part's easy.
  Money.
  California has economic power over the rest of the US because of the money that flows through it.
  
  As they said, money, but I'd say there are a few safeguards. On obvious issues like reproductive rights, we can hold out on "states decide" until there's a federal ban, and even longer with legal challenges. States that rarified it in their construction have a similar setup. We also have organizations in place to help undocumented immigrants so much so that they can get drivers licenses and insurance, etc.
  As for things specific to Trump, it's mostly a matter of having a lot of lawyers ready to challenge things and purposefully not following federal law if needed. 4 years is a remarkably short time to hold out, assuming again they don't just go full fascist and arrest our governor and state Congress. Technically shouldn't be possible even with the supreme court but who knows.
  Speaking of which, that's the real problem-- federal appointed judges. So all together we'll just have to see. States rights is a good thing when you've got a good state, though.
- yeah, thats all fair. it is ignoring how california will be uninhabitable in short order if we dont take immediate steps to curb climate change, and trump has vowed to undo the little progress the biden administration had accomplished, and to "drill, baby, drill"
  
  Yeah, that's going to be a world wide problem in any case. California can also keep doing it's green push too, but just like with countries, it's a moot point if your neighbor is mucking everything up.
- Calxit?
  
  Nah, that's a trap. At tempting at it is, it's better for everyone to stay a union even if California has the 5th (or 6th depending on measure) strongest economy in the world. Plus imagine how fucked the other 49 would be!
  
  CAWAORxit?
  
  CAWAORNYIL... And New Englandxit.
  I think that just describes a civil war at this point lol
- Yeah I feel the same with illinois.
  
  If I live close to Illinois do you think it’s worth making the move?? Can’t the federal government just do whatever the fuck it wants regardless of state rights
  
  Laws are only real if they're enforced. What we know is is that Trump promised to send troops into "sanctuary cities" and this time around, his wranglers know better on how to use him. Go to a safe city or state, but be prepared to move country if you're one of their undesirables.
  
  Its more about how the state comports its own affairs so keeping up its public infrastructure and not allowing poisoning of natural spaces and such. I can't say its worth the move as these things are really situational. Im just sorta glad I am at where I am at.
  
  Good luck gentlemen o7
- Still bad, but I feel for people in states with less protections for LGBTQ and immigrants, and especially for people in countries that are completely fucked right now unless something crazy happens.
  Your state just voted to keep slavery btw.
  
  I heard. We weren't immune to the low turn out, and if anything we had a lot more protest votes since we're a "safe blue" state. Actually I'm much more concerned about how it impacts some house races. We might be a bit screwed, and lazy Californians might be why.

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