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Other places having different historical contexts that spills into different regions aren't your thing, are they? (spare me your smug tone, please)
The whole idea of Zionism arose from problems jewish europeans had in the 20th century. The "jewish question" arose in Europe, pretty much unconcerned of how long Jerusalem was war-torn. (Unless you want to go so far back that historical chaos-theory is in full swing and you can't make any concrete statements about causal interactions, like "roman ci-il law led directly to russian progroms in the 19th century.)
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Seriously: why are you under the impression my initial comment or the message were only about Zionism?
BTW, Zionism as we know it today was coined in the 19th century by Theodor Herzl. Maybe you should open up a book for once instead of repeating easy summaries.
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The OP was about the current conflict, which is a result of Zionism.
I know about Herzl and mistyped. I can admit to an error. Can you be less smug?
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You have to explain to me how you took Zionism from the meme. From what I can gather it’s about the general conflict in the holy land.
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The current conflict is based on Zionism. Claiming that this conflict is a conyinuation of "1000 years" is Zionist propaganda.
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The current conflict isn’t based in Zionism. It’s a convenient tool, sure but it’s not the root. The crusades also weren’t based in Christian fundamentalism.
Religion is a tool to oppress and manipulate masses, but it’s not the driving factor in political rational. Just look at evangelical megachirch preachers in the U.S., religion is just a tool to them to gain more wealth.
The underlying issue is a struggle for power and control over a regions geostrategical resources. Has always been and will always be.
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What do you think Zionism is if not the appropriation of Judaism (a religion) in order to settler-colonize the middle east?
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So you agree with me? Unchanging underlying issues and the usage of varying ideological tools, Zionism as it was coined in the 19th century being the newest form, constitute the core of the Middle-East conflict and have so for millennia?
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No, I don't. Settler-Colonialism originated in Europe, not Palestine.
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Oh please, the Middle East is the cradle of civilisation and settlements of the land of other tribes, nations, whatever you call it, have always been with us.Just because Europeans first had the tools to do it en Masse doesn’t mean it’s new or a European idea. Just look at China in Tibet, Arab in Egypt, Turks in Byzantine and so on.
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Sigh this conversation bores me (the "cradle of civilization" bullshit did it for me).
If you can't see the direct connection from european proto-capitalism resulting into colonialism which inspired the Zionists, then go on and believe in mytholocical notions of "5000 year old conflicts".
BTW: "Cradle of civilization" and then acknowledging that China existed? Come on! 🙄
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