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Then your values are flawed.
You are watching a victim forced to give a gun to either
sleazeball or
a psychopath who has an explicitly outlined plan to use the gun to get more guns and kill as many people as possible.
Instead of urging the victim to choose the lesser evil you are doing... nothing? Bravely doing nothing so that next time... the sleazeball will make better choices or arguments? Or maybe so that next time the victim will learn their lesson and find a third option?
- Well I wouldnt tell that person to go on message boards and shit on every single person who shows the slightest bit of hesitance to vote democrat.
  I also wouldnt use false equivalencies to prove my point either.
  It might come as a shock to you, but there are more than just two scenarios that exist. You can bark at me all you want but you care more about predicting who wins than affecting change, so we aren't even talking about the same things.
  
  Well I wouldnt tell that person to go on message boards and shit on every single person who shows the slightest bit of hesitance to vote democrat.
  Lol. You aren't hesitant, you are falsely equating a party that is deeply flawed and a party actively working to undermine and steal an election because they know that their policies are so disturbingly bad and unpopular that even the disproportionate power their given by the electoral college can't sustain them unless they cheat.
  There are more than two outcomes, but I know that several very possible outcomes result in christofascism ruling the USA for the foreseeable future.
  You can bark at me all you want but you care more about predicting who wins than affecting change, so we aren't even talking about the same things.
  Predicting who wins? What are you even talking about. I don't know who is going to win so my point is all hands on deck to preserve what flawed democracy we still have left. If you plan is to sit this one out in some misguided attempt to "affect change" by doing nothing, then I'm going to bark.
  
  Because you are so sure criticism of the democrats means I wouldnt vote for them. Which is part of the problem. Lack of creativity we could call it but the world isn't black and white. No matter who you vote for you are suppressing the discussion around politics. Making it more narrow as to what is acceptable. The reason we are stuck with two parties is because of this narrow thinking. Politics is not a combat sport its a co-op game, and nothing will change until public perspective shifts towards that.
  
  I don't know how I can make this any clearer. This election, 2024, is not normal. In 2020 or any year prior I'd agree with you that things are not black and white.
  The man attempted a fucking coup after he lost in 2020. He has forced anyone loyal to him, or fearful of his political power, to deny that he legitimately lost the last election. An enormous effort has been undertaken to install people loyal to him through the election process in countless states and counties throughout the country to have already tested their ability to contest, refuse to certify, and/or slow walk the electoral process.
  The upcoming election is black and white. If this man doesn't suffer an overwhelming loss, there is a very good chance the US will become a dictatorship.
  
  If he wins its because the democrats spend their time attacking poor or religious republican voters instead of trying to understand why they feel the way they do. There are still peoplevoteing for trump because he's not a "politician" and politicians have fucked them over for their entire lives.
  The fact that half the country trusts Trump and the new republican party says more about the country than it does Trump. I'm sure if we just shit on those people hard enough they won't vote, right? Same thing being done to third party voters. If you aren't with us you are: evil, immoral, hate minorities, hate lgbtq, etc etc.
  Democrats love to talk lately about coming together and supporting people while throwing shit on every single outgroup. Republicans might hate some groups very openly, but democrats do the same and pretend it doesnt exist or more often just call it a good thing when they do it, cause of course they are the good team.

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