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Again, you made up your mind to have a competition of racing to the bottom, so you can continue to dismiss and ignore others.
I am for fighting for a better society for the future, and that starts by growing grassroots movements and continuing to help our local communities.
I see the Green Party as a stepping stone that will help us much more in the long term, tacking our systematic problems.
- Exactly what grass roots steps are the greens taking aside from appearing out of thin air every four years to spoil elections to the Republicans?
  I didn't just make up my mind, you chose to behave in a way that made you obvious.
- The green party's goal is a trump win.
  Sawant's speech, introducing Jill Stein. Emphasis mine:
  We are not in a position to win the White House, but we do have a real opportunity to win something historic, we could deny Kamala Harris the state of Michigan. And the polls show that most likely Harris cannot win the election without Michigan.”
  That's who you want to vote for?
  The person trying to give Trump a win?
  Just be honest with yourself and vote for Trump then. Or, you know, place a vote for Harris and not have republican fascism win.
  
  I hate Jill Stein, but in that person's defense, Kamala could easily undo that by stop supporting the genocide and being more affirmative with being against it. That's the only reason Michigan is up in the air.
  
  The person who said that is part of Stein's campaign, their goal is for Harris to lose and give Trump a win.
  As much as I hate what Israel is doing, that's completely unrelated to what the Jill Stein and the Green Party are trying to do.
  
  Right, but I'm saying what Jill Stein is doing is super easy to counter, and the right thing to do anyway. So I'm blaming Kamala for any little success they'll have over the grifter Jill Stein.
  
  The 2016 election disagrees.
  
  Jill Stein didn't cause the 2016 election. The Libertarian candidate took more votes from Trump than the Green party took from Hillary. And there was no one big thing Stein could point to to try to siphon votes from. Hillary wasn't electable for a bunch of little things all put together.
  This time Stein is basically just got the genocide and fracking things to point to, so Kamala can easily cover most of that by just not supporting the genocide so openly.
  
  I think you should look at those numbers again. Stein took enough votes to make up the difference.

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