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Full Stack Developer

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I work full stack and even do dev operations and my title is not "full stack" and I believe the reason why is so HR can argue to pay me less.
- Why would you think full stack developers make more money in general?
  
  Eh, this is a thing, large companies often have internal rules and maximums about how much they can pay any given job title. For example, on our team, everyone we hire is given the role "senior full stack developer", not because they're particularly senior, in some cases we're literally hiring out of college, but because it allows us to pay them better with internal company politics.
  
  My manager gave me a talk about how I couldnt be intermediate because I don't have enough years there. My friend intermediate is about pay and my YOE not about my tenure here (won't be long till I quit)
  
  Very useful rules, I see... impossible to bypass :-)
  
  I prefer to use statisics rather than anecdotal evidence. The stack overflow survey shows full stack pretty far down:
  https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/work#salary
  
  Apparently they can't read their own survey results because DevEx is clearly the highest paid category there but they think it's SRE and cloud
  
  What is a dev advocate really?
  
  Are you hiring
  
  Because we’re old bastards who remember before React.
  
  They do according to can stats
  
  That really depends on the company. At big tech companies, it's common for the levels and salary bands to be the same for both generalists (or full stack or whatever you want to call them) and specialists.
  It also changes depending on market conditions. For example, frontend engineers used to be in higher demand than backend and full-stack.
  
  "It depends" is a good answer, and is in line with me questioning the above comment.
  Here's a link to a recent huge worldwide study: https://survey.stackoverflow.co/2024/work#salary
  
  At the moment it looks like what the market is demanding. A few years ago specialisation was in
- The only way to get what you're worth is to change jobs. Then do it again in a couple more years.
- What’s it then? 3/4 stack developer?
  
  Just web, which is bullshit cause i literally work with like 3 OSs and 5 programming languages, ci cd. I just get thrown into a random project and come out with solutions. I told my manager my title should be software dev but he disagreed, shucks I guess.
  
  Did you tell him you guess you have to stop doing non-web development then? Clearly you're not qualified if you can't have the corresponding title.

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