The temperature in China hit 52.2°C (126°F)

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There's like 100 people with the power to make the change and they've all decided to invest the money and power in self preservation. It's the biggest 'fuck you proletariat scum' I could imagine. https://www.theguardian.com/news/2022/sep/04/super-rich-prepper-bunkers-apocalypse-survival-richest-rushkoff
- As if the voters are any better. They could vote for policy makers that bring change, or go into politics themselves. But they don't actually want to be affected by such policy changes. It's always the others, always just finger pointing.
  
  Are you talking about American voters?
  Only about 35 percent of the eligible voters participated, so yeah. Apathy and complacent comfort is a big player in the game. I'm pretty convinced that a lot of people's apathy comes from the lack of political agency. When business interests conflict with human interests guess who wins every time.
  
  No. I'm talking about all voters.
  
  Ok. Well, not all countries are democracies. So, excluded those ones right off the bat. And then narrow it to voters who participate and those who do not.
  
  If you do not participate you're part of the issue
  
  You think only America is a democracy?
  
  I think America is one of the participatory democratic countries. But many other countries are not. What are you actually confused about??
  
  Participating in what exactly? What the hell are you on about with this US brabbling? You simply don't make any sense and don't seem to have a point. That's what I'm confused about. I didn't mention America, I said voters. Of course that includes the US and excludes non democratic countries, as they do not have voters. So what are you exactly trying to say here?
  
  The largest emitter of greenhouse gasses, and CO2 is China, which not a democratic county. The second largest is United States. Idk how to discuss the possibility of 'voting' the climate change problem away without mentioning these two nations.
  
  You didn’t mention who was the largest consumer of Chinese goods which were produced in lieu of all that co2.
  
  What the hell are you going on with all this US brabbling
  Well well well, now you want to discuss US? Now it suddenly seems relevant? Hmmmmm.
  
  The largest total emitter of greenhouse gasses is the US. Followed by the EU and a bunch of other democratic countries. You are doing exactly what I said. Finger pointing rather than taking action. The US does not do enough by themselves, so how about you try stop the stupid agenda pushing and bad faith arguing, interjecting your idiotic talking points that do nothing but derail the actual topic of discussion. Because this issue does not give a flying fuck about borders.
  
  Okay. Thanks for politely correcting me. But which country is the largest emitter of CO2?
  https://www.statista.com/statistics/271748/the-largest-emitters-of-co2-in-the-world/
  Not that this changes anything. It's just another idiotic talking point as you so politely pointed out. But then again, I never asserted the idiotic notion that we could simply vote the problem away either.
  You did.
  Then you politely pointed out that it was stupid to talk about America.
  Then you made sure to call me an idiot, because America is the largest emitter of greenhouse gasses.
  Care to elaborate on any of this in a productive manner?

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