1y ago

MBFC Credibility - High

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Nyt and Guardian seem fine, (in)directly quoting the idf.
- It's "strange" how imperial propaganda is always quoting the IDF but never the resistance.
  
  I see a lot of articles quote the Gaza health ministry about casualty statistics
  
  He said the resistance not the doctors.
  
  The Gaza health ministry is run by the government of Gaza
  
  Officially. In reality, the vast majority of the Gazan hospitals* from where they count the dead are controlled by the UN through UNRWA.
  *Of which there's none fully functional, which is why we haven't gotten up to date counts for at least a couple months. Which is 50% of the reason why the IDF specifically targets hospitals and healthcare workers, of course.
  
  The israeli ministry of health is ran by israel.
  
  Wait...did you just completely miss the point?
  
  There was no point to miss.
  
  There was a very clear and simple point. I'm not sure how it's possible, but the fact that you don't think there was not just means you did, and continue to, miss it.
  
  What is the point in claiming that Palestinian doctors are valid military targets for the IDF to murder?
  
  Wow, this is just a disgustingly blatant lie about what was said. At no point did they even come close to saying anything about valid military targets, let alone doctors being one.
- The problem isn't them quoting it. The problem is passing along the blatant misinformation as truth. Why are you using their words when it's very clearly wrong?
  
  I'm reading this thread in awe, as I can't see what this 'blatant misinformation' is that everyone sees so clearly
  Hezbollah planned a large rocket attack and Israel attacked them first... How is this disputed?
  
  The misinformation is that Israel is claiming they were forced to attack first due to Hezbollahs aggression. When in fact Israel is directly responsible for escalating this conflict for several months now, and Hezbollah has been showing a lot of restraint.
  
  Are you denying Hezbollah was planning, and executed, a large rocket strike?
  
  Where did I say that?
  
  What would you do if you knew some group of religious nuts was going to fire a barrage of rockets at you?
  
  Maybe not antagonize them for months by firing rockets at them?
  
  You do realize that it was Hezbollah that started firing over the border back in October?
  
  Got a source for that?
  
  Sure
  https://www.npr.org/2023/12/19/1219748268/lebanon-hezbollah-israel-hamas-iran-war
  After the Gaza war started, Hezbollah responded by attacking Israeli targets in northern Israel.
  Hezbollah insists it did not know in advance of the Oct. 7 Hamas attack. It has traded attacks with Israel in a relatively narrow zone across Israel's northern border in an effort to tie up Israeli military resources that would otherwise be deployed in Gaza.
- Israel attacks Lebanon is the correct headline.
  Anything else is propaganda.

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