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idiocracy is a stupid movie that promote eugenics. I'm so tired of seeing people hailing it as some sort of genius movie when the only thing it has is "aren't other people stoopid? durr" wow easy there you're making my brain hurt with all this brilliant analysis. fuck idiocracy.
- I'm pretty sure the eugenics portion of the film is done more as a gag than a Literal endorsement of eugenics.
  Watching the film as a whole illustrates the way in which corporations are not only in positions of power, but are also taking the role of the arbiter of truth. It builds on this by showing how that leads to anti-intellectualism among the masses as they no longer form their own opinions, but defer to those of corporations.
  This is just my interpretation.
  
  i don't understand why the premise is set up that way. maybe I'm remembering it wrong but i don't remember the premise being a red herring or anything; they played it pretty straight.
  the movie could have been totally valid if it actually looked into real causes of intellectual decline, which is about education first and foremost, but instead they go with the breeder mentality, and not only give credence to IQ which is bs in and of itself, but suggest that it's inherited.
  someone else in these comments says oh it doesn't necessarily mean it's genetic but ignorant people are likely to raise their children to be ignorant or whatever... but that's just steelmanning the movie's premise. it's how not the movie plays it. they straight up suggest it's intelligence rather than education and tie it directly to breeding rather than socioeconomic conditions and political manipulation.
- It's a funny movie. But I get what you're saying, people use it as an example of why the real world is going downhill, and those people are unknowingly promoting eugenics.
  The movie itself doesn't promote anything. Don't blame Mike Judge for stupid fandoms.
  
  Are you claiming that the movie doesn't have a political message?
  
  I'll bite. Besides the 5 minute plot device intro that is never referenced again in the entire movie, what message does it have? I could see maybe a vague anti corporate message, but all of the movie seems tongue in cheek, including the intro.
  And if eugenics is the only political message you can think of, at least we can both be glad it failed and that this comedy movie has only been taken as a joke.
  
  Well said
  
  i don't subscribe to that idea. if it didn't promote anything it wouldn't be brought up constantly.
- Brother it's not "promoting" anything, it's a fucking satirical comedy
  
  what do you think satire means? are you a cinemasins fan or something? those sentences do not follow each other.
  
  "Satirical comedies" are famous for not having a political message. /s
  
  The political message is certainly not "eugenics is good", it's "corporatocracy is bad". The movie doesn't "promote" eugenics.
  
  That bit about the corporation is just a relatively minor plot point. The corporation didn't make the people stupid. Even the CEO didn't know what he was doing (which is a horrible satire of a corporation, too).
  The whole premise of the movie, the whole conflict and the thing the title is referencing is: Stupid people outbreed smart people.
  That's a eugenicist viewpoint. It just is.
  
  too bad they didn't call the movie corporatocracy then, isn't it. almost like that wasn't the main point for them.
  even if corporate power was the central point, which it isn't because it's a liberal movie and not a leftist one, it ties the corporate power to people being stupid (due to dysgenics and not the education system btw) rather than a very deliberate and systematic takeover by people who very well knew what they were doing. because that's how it is in real life, but the movie completely blunders that.

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