‘AI is reliant on mass surveillance’ and we should be cautious, warns head of messaging app
‘AI is reliant on mass surveillance’ and we should be cautious, warns head of messaging app
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Why is Signal so reliant on Google? It's not even in F-Droid
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There is a fork on F-Droid that isn't reliant on Google push (it uses Unified Push) called Molly. I donate to both Molly and Signal.
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It is better than nothing
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Signal is using Google Push messaging, but it could be used with websocket. And officially it's not on fdroid because they don't want forks of their app
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Yet the Molly fork supports UnifiedPush so I can reuse my connection with mf XMPP server to deliver notification from a server I control. Folks have asked for UnifiedPush or MQTT as an alternative to having multiple persistent socket connections open on your device, but Signal doesn’t seem to care.
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How did you get Unified Push working? Last time I checked it required dedicated server side software
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You have to proxy their socket. It’s dumb, & Signal is bad. Using FSM is bad for privacy & limits to only Android/iOS primary devices is a slap-in-the-face for users wish to bleak out of the duopoly owned by two ad companies.
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How would that prevent you from forking the app? F-droid isn't a repository for the code of the app. I don't think this is related at all.
I don't actually know the reason why it's not on F-droid but I assume it has some historical reason. It has never been on F-drroid since Text-secure. Moxy Marlinspike was strictly against it afaik. If somebody has more detail on it, feel free to share it.
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You're not allowed to upload apps with proprietary blobs. Google Push services is a proprietary blob.
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Because today if you find a Signal app on Fdroid you're sure that it's nonofficial, on the play store only one app is allowed, the official.
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I'm guessing its not fully open source, but I don't actually know.
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The App is open source, but they include google push services, which is not
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It is fully open-source. The distribution of the application is completely unrelated. You can still read the code and verify the build you're running.
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Thanks for the clarification.
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They are vehemently against self hosting as well.
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