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White House urges developers to dump C and C++

www.infoworld.com White House urges developers to dump C and C++

Biden administration calls for developers to embrace memory-safe programing languages and move away from those that cause buffer overflows and other memory access vulnerabilities.

White House urges developers to dump C and C++::Biden administration calls for developers to embrace memory-safe programing languages and move away from those that cause buffer overflows and other memory access vulnerabilities.

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White House urges developers to dump C and C++

www.infoworld.com /article/3713203/white-house-urges-developers-to-dump-c-and-c.html

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I’m not sure what to think about this. It’s bizarre, the White House making any recommendations on programming languages.
They’re definitely not seen as an authority in this field. Why would anyone care what recommendation they make? And so why make one at all?
- They’re definitely not seen as an authority in this field. Why would anyone care what recommendation they make?
  It's possible that they are acting on the advice of advisors who are authorities in this field.
  And so why make one at all?
  I expect it's because information and industrial security are components of national security, which is of great concern to them, and those things depend on software.
  I'm not surprised to see this, given that state-sponsored electronic attacks are on the rise these days.
  
  This is exactly why people sound sophomoric when they say "lobbying needs to go!" There are some drastic problems with lobbying as it is allowed now, but the last thing we need is the government regulating things they know nothing about without the input of experts. On top of that, it's nonsense that I can't pass my local councilman on the street and stop and push them to spend more time addressing important issues like climate change.
  
  It's important to remember that the argument against lobbying isn't about the broadest sense of the word "lobbying", but rather about corporations and other moneyed interests having unfair and unhealthy influence over the laws that govern everyone else.
  The people who decry lobbying probably agree with you; they're just using the word in an implicitly narrow context.
  
  they’re just using the word in an implicitly narrow context.
  I think we mostly agree, but disagree on this point. I think it's just that most people haven't given it any thought. Like they are just ignorantly going along with the popular opinion.
  
  I suppose mob mentality is likely to play some part in every widely shared view.
  At the very least, I can guarantee that one of said people has given it thought. :)
  
  I don't think your argument quite holds up. The directionality is important. It's true that the government can't always know about technical things directly, but I think it's fine for the government to be expected to know which experts they need to consult, and for that process not to just be open to everyone (which just means more open to those with more money).
  
  it’s fine for the government to be expected to know which experts they need to consult
  What happens if they don't even know it's a problem? Or they don't realize the severity of the problem so it gets a lower priority?
  And it also sounds like you're arguing that I can't talk to my local representative about what I think are the important issues that need to be addressed. If they have to seek me out, I would have zero input.
- It’s a national security threat
  
  C/C++ is a threat to mental stability
- NIST are the experts guiding the White House.
  
  NIST is mentioned
  confused and angry screaming
- There have been words around this, like how software should be safe by design, but the regulation should come from the governing entity. This is simply materialized now, but there has been momentum.
- They can't even figure out language for human interpretation much less computer interpretation.

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