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Poilievre says 'biological males' should be banned from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms

www.cbc.ca /news/politics/poilievre-ban-trans-women-sports-bathrooms-1.7120972

Conservative Leader Pierre Poilievre stepped into the debate over trans rights on Wednesday, saying "biological males" should be banned from women's sports, change rooms and bathrooms.

"Female spaces should be exclusively for females, not for biological males," Poilievre said in Kitchener, Ont.

The Conservative leader made the comments after being asked if, as prime minister, he would introduce legislation to prevent "transgender women" or "biological men" from participating in female sports or entering female prisons and shelters.

"A lot of the spaces … are provincially and municipally controlled, so it is unclear ... what reach federal legislation would have to change them," Poilievre said.

"But obviously female sports, female change rooms, female bathrooms should be for females, not for biological males," he added.

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Fuck this guy. What fucking washroom do I fucking use then? The one where I pass as a woman and no one notices or cares that I'm trans, or the one where I get assaulted or harassed by a man.
Guess I'll just shit myself.
- I'm going to go ahead and vote for the gender neutral one - having separate washrooms is dumb.
  
  Not always an option. Maybe thats where legislation should be?
  
  Let's end segregation.
- Pretty simple from his point of view: He would rather you get assaulted, beaten, raped, and murdered.
  I'm sorry you have to go through this shit.
- You're not supposed to exist at all, according to people like him.
- The one where you get harassed
  In a more liberal society you wouldn’t get harassed for that
  
  Great. Thanks.
- you know that single occupant toilet with the handrail? it doesn't see a lot of use ...
  
  What exactly are you tying to say?
  
  communal bathrooms are fucking stupid and anyone who doesn't feel safe has an option
  
  Those one off bathrooms don't exist everywhere. Work just moved us into a building with gendered washrooms from a building that did have the single stall gender neutral washrooms.
  The option isn't always there my dude.
  
  Gendered washrooms are silly. Actually enforcing gendered washrooms is pants-on-head backwards and I think everyone in this thread agrees on that.
  
  There is a cohort of women (biological) who are very in favor of sex-separated bathrooms. Women are vulnerable to sexual assault when having to take care of bodily functions and have the unique risk of being impregnated from said assault. This article discussed issues with public toilet access and usage for women in India, for example. If a group of women in fact want sex-separated bathrooms, then I think logically that should win out over those who don't care. Men's bathrooms should also be safe for gender non conforming people and could in fact be the default bathroom for everyone.
  
  Non-gendered bathrooms aren't just the same bathrooms we currently have, but just letting everyone in. It's either a single room with a toilet and sink, or a stall that completely closes from floor to ceiling on all sides, then having communal sinks. I'm definitely more in favor of having sinks more out in the open, because not enough people wash their hands, and maybe that would help.
  
  I never understood why Single Use Washrooms get gendered.
  
  That's a fair point, but flimsy stalls that you can inadvertently make eye contact through the door gaps in, are not what I have in mind. Rather, individual rooms for doing private business, potentially with a common area for washing hands, are what I imagine, and are already being used in several establishments.

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