2y ago

I'm happy to move if they'd pay for my meal

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Empathy, citizen. Empathy.
Why add to the stressful shit of the Universe. Just be kind.
- precisely. there was no need for her to stress out OP by telling him he had to hurry. she could have moved the meet to a less busy restaurant, or waited for a table to open like the rest of us, or possibly even politely asked instead of dictating rudely.
  
  there was no need for her to stress out OP by telling him he had to hurry.
  Honestly I wouldn't myself have done that to someone else, but depending on how the request was asked would depend if it was actually rude or not.
  
  Literally asking any stranger to finish their food sooner so you can take their seat is unacceptable.
  It just reeks of entitlement where you're more important than them. They shouldn't have to eat any differently because you want to have their seat.
  I can tell this was asked by a woman whose dad gave her everything she wanted.
  
  she could have moved the meet to a less busy restaurant
  You really would try to do something like that with less than 15 minutes until the other persons arrival?
  
  yes. it is not everyone else's responsibility to reshape reality to accommodate me. if the restaurant I'm meeting a friend at is full when we both get there, and it looks like the wait will be too long for us, we go to a backup location. sometimes that happens. it's life. at no point do we assume a position of superiority and arrogance and start accosting already-seated patrons issuing orders to vacate to make room for us. that would make me and my friends pieces of shit.
  
  Yes? I've done that tons of times when I get to a restaurant and it turns out to be crowded I'll call whoever I'm meeting and work out an alternative.
  
  Yes? I’ve done that tons of times when I get to a restaurant and it turns out to be crowded I’ll call whoever I’m meeting and work out an alternative.
  With less than 15 minutes ago, when they may already have been pulling into a parking garage?
  I'm not saying it's impossible, but I'm just speaking towards how much time was left until the appointment time, hard to handle changes on the fly with so little time left. Not impossible, but hard.
  
  Any restaurant I've been to that has a parking garage also had half a dozen other place within walking distance. Changing venue isn't really an issue unless they all are crowded in which case that's on us for planning poorly. Even if there's not another place within walking distance driving to another location is trivial. 15 minutes is more than enough time.
- Or she could've learned some manners and not asked people who are eating to move
  
  She was asking for a favor. Human beings do that sometimes. It's a shared limited public resource.
  
  Well then she could be a daddy's girl who got everything she ever wanted and just doesn't understand the concept that the world doesn't revolve around her. Glad someone could show it to her.
  
  Well then she could be a daddy’s girl who got everything she ever wanted and just doesn’t understand the concept that the world doesn’t revolve around her. Glad someone could show it to her.
  Such a strange immature response to that comment. You know nothing about that person, you don't know their maturity level, or what they've been given in life for free and what they needed to fight for.
  All they did was ask if the person could finish up so that she could have the table, a shared resource that's in limited supply that all citizens would need to use at that restaurant.
  You know sometimes you really don't have to be such hard asses to each other, truly. Even if it was a little over the top, we only have one side of what was literally said, and the tone of how it was said was not included at all.
  
  Idc
  
  Idc
  I guess that's what it really just comes down to, if you care for others, or think only for yourself.
  
  why would you care for people who exploit the baseline care given from others but themselves do not care for others? you're enabling and encouraging this breakdown of societal care by accommodating the loud-mouth arrogant bullies like the "hurry up" woman to the degree that you seemingly elevate them above the average person.
  "being kind" does not mean "being a doormat", you seem to have conflated those things.
  
  You're assuming a lot of facts that are not in evidence.
  
  It's not shared. It's his until he's finished with his meal a meal he paid for and is at liberty to consume at whatever pace is most enjoyable to him.
  
  It's shared. He doesn't bring his own table and chairs with him.
  
  You don't bring your own seat on an airplane either. It comes with you purchasing a flight to a destination. Those certainly aren't shared.
  
  You don’t bring your own seat on an airplane either. It comes with you purchasing a flight to a destination. Those certainly aren’t shared.
  Those seats are assigned to you, not one that you obtain yourself.
  I mentioned in another comment about how different restaurant venues have it where sometimes you have to get your own seating, and other times the restaurant gets the seating for you. The airline would be the same thing as the restaurant getting the seating for you.
  I'm talking about you having to get your seat yourself, not assigned by the restaurant.
  
  The seats are still owned by the restaurant and designated for people who have paid for meals. They don't typically welcome people who are not buying to come sit down. So it's not a "shared resource". You pay for a meal, you get a table until you're finished. If you want to share that table or not is up to you or the rules of the restaurant.
  
  The seats are still owned by the restaurant and designated for people who have paid for meals. They don’t typically welcome people who are not buying to come sit down. So it’s not a “shared resource”. You pay for a meal, you get a table until you’re finished. If you want to share that table or not is up to you or the rules of the restaurant.
  Two people can't sit in the same chair at the same time, so it's a shared resource.
  And again, we're not talking about ownership, we're talking about usage, by ALL customers.
  You're being intellectually dishonest, and it shows with the quality of your responses.
  
  Two people can’t sit in the same chair at the same time.
  That's exactly what makes it not shared. Only one person can use it at a time and they are entitled to it for the duration of their meal. Demanding that they rush through their meal so you can have it is hardly sharing.
  Intellectually dishonest? How? Just because I don't agree with you doesn't make that true.
  
  That’s exactly what makes it not shared.
  No it doesn't, because they both have a need for it and one is finishing their need, and the other one is going to need. It's a transactional event thats happening, and if the person who's using it doesn't need it anymore they can move on and release the resource for the next person to use. And if they don't, then they're being rude and selfish.
  Again, you're being intellectually dishonest. I say that because I know you understand the concept of one thing needed to be used by two people so they take turns using the thing and not hogging up the thing when they know another person needs the thing.
  Demanding that they rush through their meal so you can have it is hardly sharing.
  That was not being said (again being intellectually dishonest by misrepresenting what was being said). The person was inquiring when they would be done. No demand was being made.
  
  Dude I bet people walk all over you
  
  I bet you’re a dick
  
  I wouldn't take that bet tbh
  
  Quite the opposite actually.
  It's okay to be nice to other people, truly. It makes the World a better place.
  
  She was asking for a favor.
  She was not. She was ordering OP to finish and leave, because she viewed herself as more valuable and more entitled to the shared resource than OP is, and therefore expected them to comply.
  If she had merely asked for a favor instead of issuing an order, it could have been different.

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