10mo ago

Tipping culture npcs

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Went to my normally favorite bar today and they updated their tipping button recommendations to "20%", "69%", and "100%". The 69% was the default option which while I know they're memeing, seemed really uncool as I nearly clicked approve without noticing.
- I definitely support this! Gets people to actually think about what they are agreeing to and reminds everyone that tipping is optional.
  
  https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dark_pattern
  No. Putting shit like that is literally deceptive as shit. It's a bar... you're expecting your patrons to be inebriated. I personally think that asking for tips as part of any checkout process should be illegal when you know you're primary demographic cannot make reasonably informed decisions.
  
  It's hard for me to relate as I've literally never agreed to pay for something without checking the price I'm agreeing to. Like...they hand me the machine and it says various percent options, and so I read them and then don't hit any of them unless I want to do whatever that button indicates.
  There is nothing 'dark pattern' about it. The interface was not created to trick anyone at all. It's a completely standard interface. It clearly labels how one can choose to pick any tip of their own liking, including none.
  And sure, alcohol can lower peoples decision making abilities. But I don't agree with policing people's bad decisions when it only impacts themselves. Drunk driving is one thing, but ordering 5 unhealthy cheeseburgers when you're drunk is a very different thing.
  
  so I read them and then don’t hit any of them unless I want to do whatever that button indicates.
  Or you're used to the establishment having a 15/20/25 option and 20 is usually selected... Except now they've changed it to 25/69/100... and 69 is defaulted and you didn't specifically check or remember there was a change. There are other cases that can exist where inebriation would hinder someone from making a more correct choice.

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